Posted on 06/14/2009 2:32:16 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
Bibi may have called The One’s bluff but its a hollow victory at best. Israel has a losing hand at the moment and worse, The One controls the purse strings.
And weapon sales to Israel?! No way. It only facilitates their occupation and oppression. It puts blood on our hands.
I do not like Obama and feel he is in office unconstitutionally, but that said, he needs to impose peace upon the Middle East—force Israel to abandoned its settlements in occupied territories, share Jerusalem, and end apartheid within its own borders. Obama can be transcendant here and note that Israel is not a democracy and that it has lost its way—we can either help it or, if the Israeli’s refuse, then we must let them falter. At the end of the day, Israel offers us, the US nothing except to asauge our guilt. They no more respect Christians than do they respect Muslims. They do not respect human rights. Yes, the same can be said of the Arabs and the Palestinians and the whole matter can devolve into an endless cycle of who did what to who first or last. It is high time to say stop, no more. Not especially with US dollars, weapons, or support.
Universities in the US do not serve the nation well. They turn down US students to instead bring in students from overseas. Then, businesses complain there are no qualified Americans. US schools that receive federal dollars should not be allowed to accept non-US students while there is a waiting list of qualified US students—even if they have to help them with remedial education to get qualified. If there is a qualifiable American interested in school, especially engineering and the sciences, then they should get in first.
One must ponder the the same goal; the illegal Mexican immigration issue on our southern border....
DELUTE THE VOTE.....and take the southern border states....
Oh, and then after you see it, then ask yourself “How many babies are the Chinese having?”Demographics are only destiny in a democracy. Infrastructure and industrial capacity are what you should be looking at.And double check with India, too..., while you’re at it... :-)
I TOLD you not to answer me. Don’t understand English? And NO, I don’t think the muslims taking over the world is frickin’ inevitable. I truly dislike people who think the future is set in stone, I am NOT going to roll over and play dead simply because you seem to think we are all doomed.
I agree in parts but I have a problem with Israel insisting against a significant minority and eventual majority to retain itself as a “Jewish state”. This is not democracy, nor freedom. It is a recipe for continued bloodshed. A “Jewish state” like the Vatican makes sense. Beyond that, Israel is simply an oppressive state waging apartheid on its non-Jewish residents.
And BTW, the “missiles” is a lame excuse for the murderous and destructive attacks by Israel on Gaza. These were war crimes—using cluster bombs and white phosphorous in residential areas.
Disarm both or ensure both are equally armed. Anything else won’t work.
Well, someone anonymous said — “I TOLD you not to answer me. Don’t understand English? And NO, I don’t think the muslims taking over the world is frickin’ inevitable. I truly dislike people who think the future is set in stone, I am NOT going to roll over and play dead simply because you seem to think we are all doomed.”
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Since I don’t know who this is and I’m not answering anyone, I’m surprised that “no one” is answering me... LOL...
BUT, demographics is solid proof and it has a long track record. Anyone can sink their head into the sand and ignore facts, but the facts do catch up.
It’s a fact that we’ve killed off 50 million of our own babies in this country. That’s 50 million less workers and less people to populate this society. On the other hand, with the demographics of the Muslims, they don’t kill off their babies, but keep them all. In addition, they have about 4 times as many, maybe up to five times as many.
The Demographics *alone* spell the *death of the West* — without any other thing.
To ignore it — is to ignore the facts staring anyone right in their own face...
Universities in the US do not serve the nation well. They turn down US students to instead bring in students from overseas. Then, businesses complain there are no qualified Americans. US schools that receive federal dollars should not be allowed to accept non-US students while there is a waiting list of qualified US students—even if they have to help them with remedial education to get qualified. If there is a qualifiable American interested in school, especially engineering and the sciences, then they should get in first.Nativism doesn't work. The Indian and Chinese students get into the top programs because they're *better* on average. Western education is better with outliers, the super geniuses that redefine their fields, but China and India churn out competent researchers far better than we do.
The cat left this bag when Nixon went to China. What's ironic is that because of that divide and conquer play, China --not the US-- may end up as the big winner of the Cold War. Amazing in hindsight.
You were saying — One must ponder the the same goal; the illegal Mexican immigration issue on our southern border....
DELUTE THE VOTE.....and take the southern border states....
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But, when you look at it with the demographics presented in Post #20, you’ll see that it’s the immigration “south of the border” which has kept our birthrate “up” in this country, to the point where we are *barely sustainable* right now.
If it were not for them, we would have gone past the point of *no return* in our demographics and would be *lost* just from the birthrate alone.
HOWEVER, when you factor in the Muslim demographic, and even compared to the birthrate of the “south of the border” population — the Muslims have it “hands down”....
So, they beat out everyone and in a few years, a mere generation or thereabouts, the Muslims take over this country...
You said — Infrastructure and industrial capacity are what you should be looking at.
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And the Muslims are in a position to infiltrate all the infrastructure and industrial capacity, in various countries. So, they end up with it...
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[whether they do any good with what they take over, is another story..., but it’s enough, in that they destroy the society that they invade from within...]
Matthew, you stated, “I do not like Obama and feel he is in office unconstitutionally, but that said, he needs to impose peace upon the Middle East—force Israel to abandoned its settlements in occupied territories, share Jerusalem, and end apartheid within its own borders. Obama can be transcendant here and note that Israel is not a democracy and that it has lost its way—we can either help it or, if the Israeli’s refuse, then we must let them falter. At the end of the day, Israel offers us, the US nothing except to asauge our guilt. They no more respect Christians than do they respect Muslims. They do not respect human rights. Yes, the same can be said of the Arabs and the Palestinians and the whole matter can devolve into an endless cycle of who did what to who first or last. It is high time to say stop, no more. Not especially with US dollars, weapons, or support.”
************Make sure you are on God’s side when you talk about Israel. He has promised that Jerusalem will be a burden to the entire world in the last days:
Zech 12:2-3 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Very true... :-)
We’re quickly coming up on it, if not already there... (just about, anyway...)
I do not like Obama and feel he is in office unconstitutionally, but that said, he needs to impose peace upon the Middle East—force Israel to abandoned its settlements in occupied territories, share Jerusalem, and end apartheid within its own borders.
If "settlements" are bad, you have just sold America out, you fraud. We are a settler nation, one without any of the historic ties that Israelites have to Israel.
Share Jerusalem? You mean expel Jews from the Jewish Quarter of the Old City and hand over the shrines to the Muslims who appropriated desecrated or kept Jews from them for a generation?
Apartheid? You mean like full rights and affirmative action for Arabs in Israel.
Obama can be transcendant here and note that Israel is not a democracy and that it has lost its way—we can either help it or, if the Israeli’s refuse, then we must let them falter.
How is it not a democracy? You are reading leftist twaddle whether from communists, Arabs/Muslims, or ex-conservatives poisoned by grievance.
r. At the end of the day, Israel offers us, the US nothing except to asauge our guilt. They no more respect Christians than do they respect Muslims.
Considering Christians own more private land in Israel than Jews, Christian Churches are fully protected, and Christians from the disputed territories are desperately trying to move to Israel proper, you are either purposely lying or are just to dumb to realize how ignorant you are.
It seems so ... everything seems to be lining up to the 70th week of Daniel.
Just how does Premier Obama impose peace?
Obama can be transcendent here and note that Israel is not a democracy and that it has lost its way—we can either help it or, if the Israeli’s refuse, then we must let them falter. At the end of the day, Israel offers us, the US nothing except to assuage our guilt.
Just exactly do we need to assuage our guilt over?
I think that this is simply an attempt to play for time and not an honest readiness to negotiate and settle.
Yep, lining up for that 70th week of Daniel, known as the Great Tribulation or that last 7 years before the Messiah of Israel returns to earth to set up His Kingdom on this earth, ruling and reigning over all the nations of the world (just thought I would say that for anyone else “wondering”.... :-)....).
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Essentially the Oslo Accords, back to Clinton and Bush I.
Don't worry, America has been in "death throes" numerous times. So have Jews.
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