[redgolum]

Interesting.
We plunge head long into socialism as the rest of the world leaves it.

[Rocky]

We plunge head long into socialism as the rest of the world leaves it.

Europe isn't leaving socialism. Whatever "center right" means, it does NOT mean conservative in the American sense. No one there is going to tamper with government benefits in any serious way. The nanny state is too much a way of life there.

I suspect that most of the debate is about immigration.