[bvw]

Edit to last “No prison rehabs such men” — the gang culture is full of ex-cons and cons still operate in the gang while in prison. Prisons BUILD the strength of the gangs as far as I understand.

[DumpsterDiver]

Will this mean much if the prisoners still are ganged up in prison?

Probably not.

There's a value to a Hell's Island or a Gitmo for such had cases.

I agree.

Edit to last "No prison rehabs such men" — the gang culture is full of ex-cons and cons still operate in the gang while in prison. Prisons BUILD the strength of the gangs as far as I understand.

Well, if they're convicted it's OK with me if we just shoot 'em.

[erman]

Prisons BUILD the strength of the gangs as far as I understand.

nope.

Gangs are what fills the void when police and criminal justice system will not keep an area "safe".

That's how all gangs start... for protection, Strength in numbers... always.

When the cops leave an area the gangs are there to protect their turf. ... of course they want to be paid for this service, just like city taxes... except it's protection money.

All the gangs have to do in order to continue to survive is kill anybody that messes with their turf. Latin Kings, Mexican Mafia and MS-13... aren't about flash... their all about power.

The "strength" of the gang is its willingness to kill in order to intimidate. That's a big step, murder, but one that many gang bangers usually are not afraid of doing in order to "represent" or "show" their fellow punks how "el bario primero"... por la vida loca.

[erman]

Prisons BUILD the strength of the gangs as far as I understand.

nope.

Gangs are what fills the void when police and criminal justice system will not keep an area "safe".

That's how all gangs start... for protection, Strength in numbers... always.

When the cops leave an area the gangs are there to protect their turf. ... of course they want to be paid for this service, just like city taxes... except it's protection money.

All the gangs have to do in order to continue to survive is kill anybody that messes with their turf. Latin Kings, Mexican Mafia and MS-13... aren't about flash... their all about power.

The "strength" of the gang is its willingness to kill in order to intimidate. That's a big step, murder, but one that many gang bangers usually are not afraid of doing in order to "represent" or "show" their fellow punks how "el bario primero"... por la vida loca.