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Rabbi Asks Pope Benedict Not to Wear Cross at Western Wall
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| March 17th, 2009
Posted on 03/17/2009 9:26:17 AM PDT by TaraP
Edited on 03/17/2009 9:47:14 AM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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... but bring a koran.
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posted on
03/17/2009 12:06:05 PM PDT
by
evets
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posted on
03/17/2009 4:52:55 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
To: Cicero
I cant imagine anyone making a problem if an Orthodox Jew entered a Catholic Church in full regalia. This is more of a secular and political attitude than a religious one, IMHO. As I noted on another thread, an observant Jew wouldn't enter with a tallit or tefillin because they're worn when praying, and he wouldn't go to a Church to pray. Many observant Jews wear a kippah or other head covering all the time, that wouldn't be allowed when visiting, for example, St. Peters.
Since this is one Rabbi's opinion, and people visit with cross' all the time, it's really not much of an issue.
43
posted on
03/17/2009 4:57:24 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
To: Zathras
Probably a fake planted story. When I was there, the only thing they worried about was using cell phones and wearing a yamaka. All the Rabbi's I saw were happy to see a gentile join in.No, it's his opinion, but as you note contrary to accepted practice. Cross' aren't banned, they won't be when the Pope visits.
44
posted on
03/17/2009 4:58:59 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
To: KarlInOhio
I'm not familar with Rabbi Rabinovitch. Is he a serious Jewish religious leader, or is he the Jewish version of "Reverend" Fred Phelps?He's the Rabbi of the Western Wall, and is in charge of conduct and appearances. Every year or two he makes the news. A couple years ago it was asking a group of European clergy not to display their crosses openly, once not allowing American female Rabbis to wear tallit. He's the one who got upset, as he should, when someone removed Obama's prayer and released it to the press. A local official.
45
posted on
03/17/2009 5:06:34 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
To: KarlInOhio
I'm not familar with Rabbi Rabinovitch. Is he a serious Jewish religious leader, or is he the Jewish version of "Reverend" Fred Phelps?He is the Head Rabbi responsible for the Kotel ( the Western Wall )
which is a synagogue and the most Holy site for Observant Orthodox Jews.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
46
posted on
03/17/2009 5:11:12 PM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
To: TaraP
Pope Joihn Paul II prayed at the Kotel dressed as he wanted, so to Pope Benedict will. The Cross part is mentioned by the cultral liberals to screw Orthodox Jews. There is no context here. The Western Wall is the remnant of the holiest site in Judaism. In some respects, it symbolically is the Temple. It is one thing for a non-Jew to pray there, it is another to do so in explicitly non-Jewish terms. No Jew would ask to pray in full religious garb at St. Peter’s.
Not allowing Jews to pray for hours around the Pope’s visit makes this a real insult, something the Christian poster’s here just don’t see.
The story does not relate why the Irish Prelates were not allowed to pray. Were they trying to do so as part of a political stunt? We don’t know. And the atheist writer doesn;t care to tell us because facts are not the purpose, running a hit piece on Jewish control of Jewish sites is.
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posted on
03/17/2009 6:33:31 PM PDT
by
rmlew
To: Cicero
I could imagine there being a problem if the Chief Rabbi of Israel decided to pray in St. Peter's Basilica in full religious garb. Or what if he wanted to pray for the Jews buried under the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. I'm certain that the Armenian clerics would go nuts.
The Western Wall is the only remainder Jews have the Temple. it is holy ground in a way that no church is for Christians. It is all but equal to the Kaba for Muslims.
Still this is a contrived controversy as the pope will pray as he wishes.
48
posted on
03/17/2009 6:40:42 PM PDT
by
rmlew
To: TaraP
He IS the Pope. . .and was invited as such; did this rabbi expect him to come as a 'pretender' in profane disguse?
What kind of idiocy is this?
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posted on
03/17/2009 6:50:06 PM PDT
by
cricket
(January 20, 2009 - the day the music died)
To: SJackson
Is there a precedent for this? As for example, has the Pope ever visited a mosque, and removed his cross out of respect for the mosque?
50
posted on
03/17/2009 7:00:30 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
To: TaraP
Isaiah 43:11
Zechariah 14:9
Malachi 3:6
Isaiah 42:6
Isaiah 49:6
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posted on
03/17/2009 7:06:19 PM PDT
by
familyop
(combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96)
To: Alouette
Don’t know. JPII wore his cross, I don’t see why this should be an issue. Maybe the Rabbi hadn’t seen his name in the paper for awhile, maybe the JP simply heard a quote and saw an article
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posted on
03/17/2009 7:27:21 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
To: TaraP
Our Nation was established by people who did not want to see crosses. They did not allow crosses in their churches in England before coming here to get away from the edicts of Europe.
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posted on
03/17/2009 7:41:46 PM PDT
by
familyop
(combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Noachide follower)
To: familyop
Exactly....Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion....
I hope Israel will come to know Christ and his true Church..
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posted on
03/18/2009 10:22:28 AM PDT
by
TaraP
(The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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