Posted on 03/17/2009 9:26:17 AM PDT by TaraP
Edited on 03/17/2009 9:47:14 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
A rabbi in Jerusalem has one request for Pope Benedict XVI when he visits the Western Wall in May: Leave the cross at home.
Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who will meet the pontiff when he visits the Holy Land on May 12, said that a cross is not proper when visiting the Jewish religious site, The Jerusalem Post reported.
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That’s kinda stupid. And I’m Jewish.
It’s amazing how we invent ways to seperate ourselves.
Yo Pope,
Wear a Cross and a Star of David and pray for world peace.
They put Jesus on the cross outside the gate of Jerusalem but the Pope is not supposed to wear one. Right.
Don’t feel bad about it, there are plenty of stupids is ALL religions.
Wear your cross, Holy Father, it is a part of your papal dress, you never take it off. Just bring the pictures of JPII wearing his, and don’t let them intimidate you because of your heritage. That is pretty much what it is about.
Yes it is...
The Cross represents forgiveness, love and salvation..
Soemthing the world needs more than ever.....
Rabbi Asks Pope Benedict Not to Wear Cross at Western WallROFL!!!
Rabbi must join him for a ham sandwich.
Pope’s response:
Duly noted, duly disregarded.
A piece of gold on a chain is nothing compared to the Pope’s beliefs. I suppose he’ll be asked to leave those at home as well? Talk about a slap in the face.
Reb, with all due respect, kish mir in tuchis.
You should be happy. He's already wearing a yarmulke.
I wonder if he was offended by the shenanigans of that swarthy leprechaun O’bama last year.
Hey, it was us pagans who nailed up Jesus. Don’t give the Jews the credit.
Sounds like he has been studying the Saudis. Except they don’t allow stars of David either.
What a stupid comment this Rabbi made.
Pope to Rabbi: “Nuts”
I am Jewish too. And it’s VERY stupid.
Tell the Rabbi go get stuffed.
The man that was crucified on that cross was Jewish. How much more appropriate can you get?
Pope to Rabbi: “You cannot escort me to the Wall unless you remove your big crooked nose.”
Keep this crap up and your ass will be thrown off again and rightly so.
The Pope and the cross are one and the same? No?
Just anothr rabbi all caught up in worshipping another rock ~ (Making clear exactly why Moses told everybody to just steer clear of the rocks).
That’s right — the Pope should NEVER take it off. Satan hates the Cross/ best for the good Rabbi not to make a big stink about it, esp since there are Muslims crawling all over the Dome of the Rock. If they can do no harm, the Cross of Christ should be ok.
What the Rabbi does not understand IMHO is that the *CROSS* represents the *HEART* of a Christian...It is so hurtful and insulting to most Christians because it attacks the core of there faith *THE HOLY SPIRIT* I respect the faith of Judaism where the heart of our christian faith evolved
however, the Rabbi will cause more hurt in the world and to Israel if he insults the Christian World..Which is composed of Jews and Gentiles alike who have a relationship with the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
I can’t imagine anyone making a problem if an Orthodox Jew entered a Catholic Church in full regalia. This is more of a secular and political attitude than a religious one, IMHO.
Rabbi Rabinovitch does not know Jesus Christ, so he does not understand the *Cross*
You cannot know or understand anyone else unless you have attempted to get to know them, invite them into your home sit down and have a cup of Coffee...
Jesus Christ stands at the door of every single person in the world, he does not care what religion you follow, your race, political affiliation, creed, gender...If you invite him into your heart then he will let you get to know him through the Holy Spirit....
The Rabbi does not know Jesus Christ.....
They made Jesus wear one.
Kind of what they told Peter to do as well. He didn’t listen either.
RABBI NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THE CROSS>>>>>>
With the CROSS God takes us out of the ordinary and makes us extraordinary people. Instead of being the flesh that will rot with time, He puts the stamp of infinity upon our foreheads and hands us a ticket to glory.
We no longer have to worry about the limit of time for He makes us timeless.
By that shed blood at a place called Calvary, Jesus made us part of His family. Through it He lifts us out of the bondage of hell and claims us for His own.
He takes us from the clutches of Satan, cleans our souls with tender mercy and careful love, and calls us His brothers and sisters.
If I say I love Jesus and look forward to sharing His kingdom, I must carry His cross.
If I need His help in my life situations I must want to help others in the same way. If I need to share in all His goodness I must share in His suffering. If I know that He died on a cross for me, I must be willing to sacrifice myself for Him if He asks this of me.
Mashood,
That is not kind or Christian like...Maybe you say that out of frustration but let us all remember what Jesus told us..
First..
The Flesh is weak- Which makes us want to lash out, when we are hurt or offended
But the *Spirit* is mighty powerful in *Christ*
If that cross becomes heavy on my shoulders, all I need to do is remember the treasures it holds for me.
Who will carry the cross? Will you?
“Deny thyself, take up thy cross and follow Me,”
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” Mt. 5: 43-44
“Do not repay anyone evil for evil.....Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath....If your enemy is hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on their heads. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.” Ro. 17: 12
GOD Bless you in your walk with the Lord...
Hey Rabbi, With the world wanting all Jews thrown into the fire...maybe you shouldn’t throw gasoline.Dumb As$!
Hah! On my “about” page, I think I’m listed as 16 yrs. old. Just can’t seem to correct that and now I’m 62. Procrastination?
That’s good to know...
IMO everything we have here on Planet Earth is a gift from GOD...He can take it back just as he giveth...
That includes the Western Wall...
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I am merely a sinner too!
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As I noted on another thread, an observant Jew wouldn't enter with a tallit or tefillin because they're worn when praying, and he wouldn't go to a Church to pray. Many observant Jews wear a kippah or other head covering all the time, that wouldn't be allowed when visiting, for example, St. Peters.
Since this is one Rabbi's opinion, and people visit with cross' all the time, it's really not much of an issue.
No, it's his opinion, but as you note contrary to accepted practice. Cross' aren't banned, they won't be when the Pope visits.
He's the Rabbi of the Western Wall, and is in charge of conduct and appearances. Every year or two he makes the news. A couple years ago it was asking a group of European clergy not to display their crosses openly, once not allowing American female Rabbis to wear tallit. He's the one who got upset, as he should, when someone removed Obama's prayer and released it to the press. A local official.
He is the Head Rabbi responsible for the Kotel ( the Western Wall )
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
which is a synagogue and the most Holy site for Observant Orthodox Jews.
Pope Joihn Paul II prayed at the Kotel dressed as he wanted, so to Pope Benedict will. The Cross part is mentioned by the cultral liberals to screw Orthodox Jews. There is no context here. The Western Wall is the remnant of the holiest site in Judaism. In some respects, it symbolically is the Temple. It is one thing for a non-Jew to pray there, it is another to do so in explicitly non-Jewish terms. No Jew would ask to pray in full religious garb at St. Peter’s.
Not allowing Jews to pray for hours around the Pope’s visit makes this a real insult, something the Christian poster’s here just don’t see.
The story does not relate why the Irish Prelates were not allowed to pray. Were they trying to do so as part of a political stunt? We don’t know. And the atheist writer doesn;t care to tell us because facts are not the purpose, running a hit piece on Jewish control of Jewish sites is.
Still this is a contrived controversy as the pope will pray as he wishes.
What kind of idiocy is this?
Is there a precedent for this? As for example, has the Pope ever visited a mosque, and removed his cross out of respect for the mosque?
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