Posted on 03/15/2009 2:05:25 PM PDT by Squidpup
A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel's survival beyond the next 20 years.
The CIA report predicts "an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region."
The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israeli - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years.
"There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California," International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them.
"So I think the handwriting at least among the public in Israel is on the wall...[which] suggests history will reject the colonial enterprise sooner or later," Lamb stressed.
He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an 'Israeli land' would happen 'way sooner' than later.
The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.
Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public -- which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv's measures in the last 25 years -- may 'not take it anymore'.
Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report.
For the statement — “Rifles, bullets, war and self-defense, no matter who helps in this world, will not save Israel. It’s doomed, as far as things are going today, as we see them in a human sense...”
I can’t see much wrong with it, at all.
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You were saying, “You Sir, are a person deeply in need of professional help.”
Apparently, so would over half the people on Free Republic, for stating their opinion (at least, to you...)... LOL...
“This does not make Truman “[t]he man responsible for the present state of Israel “ but it should clear up confusion.”
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Well, “Yehuda”, considering that Truman apparently had to fight his entire administration in order to get Israel recognized (and some resigned over what Truman did) — I would say that Truman is greatly responsible, in a key way and in perfect timing...
See the account as presented here...
http://www.mideastweb.org/us_supportforstate.htm
Truman also complained about the Jews pressuring him all the time, too... LOL... But, his own administration was doing things against him...
You said — “The CIA obviously hasn’t read the Bible and God’s promise to Israel.”
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Well, the CIA is not in a position to be quoting Bible verses in its analysis... LOL... It doesn’t happen that way.
I do happen to think that what CIA says, is very true, in the analysis that they have, given the conditions of the world, the Muslims, the analysis of a “one-state solution” [which a lot of people here advocate) — but that would *absolutely destroy Israel*], and all other factors that we have in “this world”.
It’s accurate and I think what they say is true. They can’t last more than 20 years.
What you’re talking about, which the CIA cannot include in their analysis, is what the Bible says about what God will do to intervene.
The point to keep in mind is *not* that the CIA is wrong in its analysis — but rather, they *cannot include* a “key factor” of what the Bible says. Now, mind you, there are a *whole bunch* of other people in the world who do not even believe what the Bible says.
BUT — even further than that — there are a *whole bunch* of Christians who *do not believe* what is said about God intervening on behalf of Israel. I hear it *all the time* from other “so-called Christians” — who say that God will *not do these things* and that Israel is *just like any other nation in the world* — and thus, they would *agree with the CIA* — totally with no exceptions (even being Christians and saying that they believe the Bible).
NOW..., I *do believe* in the *future prophecies* of the Bible concerning Israel and I see that this is *exactly* what the Bible does say. But, I’ll guarantee you, you’ll have a bunch of Christians who will tell you *no way!* God has nothing more to do with Israel, prophetically. It’s just the same as any other nation in the world and it will “rise” and “fall” on its own, without God’s intervention...
You were saying — “Let us hope not. The Palstinian project should be rejected, and the Palestinians assimilated into the general Arab populations. This is the only just solution to the I/P conflict.”
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Here’s the *problem* with that solution you just provided. The other countries do *not* have to take anyone from outside their country, into their own country. No one can make them. And there’s no real incentive or benefit to them to do so, anyway. So, why should they have a thing to do with taking in the people who are currently living in the P.A. (Palestinian Authority) areas?
These other countries *are not a party* to the problem of (1) Israel and (2) the P.A. controlled areas. They are *outsiders* and do not have a direct part in it.
Let’s say you ask Egypt to take all the people in Gaza. Do you think they would do it? No way! Okay, how about Jordan taking the people on the so-called “West Bank”? Would they do it? No way. Jordan fought a war with the terrorists in 1970 (i.e., “Black September”) to get rid of them and kick them out of Jordan. So, you think Jordan wants them back again? No way!
And how about Lebanon? Do you think that Lebanon wants a bunch of terrorist to upset the fragile balance they’ve got right now, by adding a million or more terrorists to their country? No way!
Do you think Syria wants them? No way! How about Saudi Arabia. Not a chance! LOL... No one wants them.
SO..., where are they going to go? :-) *Absolutely nowhere!* They’re staying right there in Israel, the so-called “occupied territories” of Israel.
AND..., it’s a good thing it’s called “occupied terrorities” — because if it weren’t and this land was *really* “Israel proper” then all these Muslim terrorists and their families *would be able to vote* in Israel. Can you imagine what about three million more Muslim terrorists and their families would do to the “voting” in Israel? It would *wipe out Israel* in one or two elections.
Either they have a *two-state solution* and the terrorists get their own state, and thus they cannot vote in Israel — or — you have a *one-state solution* in which Israel takes over all the land, and all these people become Israeli citizens (by “right” at that time, obviously, because they “live in the land” and you can’t deprive people the right of voting in the land where you live). So, with the one-state solution — Israel *disappears* in just one or two elections and the whole area (of Israel) becomes *Muslim* and Sharia law is instituted and the name gets changed from “Israel” to “Palestine”.
Now — that — is the problem you have...
I ALWAYS learn something from your posts.
We are cool. Have you determined yet if the Gog Magog invasion of Ezekiel 38 and 39 comes before or after the rapture? I currently believe it could go either way.
Excellent perspective of the current political reality.
It was at the encouragement of their fellow Arabs that the refugees fled their ‘homeland’ to begin with. Surely, they have some moral obligation to them then? I would say that they DO have a part in this. And after all, they claim to be their ‘brothers’ and fellow muslims. Shouldn't they show them some compassion?
If nothing else, most of these people were under the jurisdiction of Jordan until the 1967 war. Doesn't Jordan have a special obligation to them? Why not?
Further, few of these Arabs had been in Palestine to begin with. They only began to immigrate when the Jews began to make the land to bloom. Seems like their ancestral lands would want to help their ethnic brothers.
OK, there is a lot of hypocrisy here on the Ara side.
Actually, I have no real objection to a two-state solution. It's just that the Arabs don't really want one. They've had plenty of chances to have one and have spurned them all. The losers of a war do not set the terms of a peace treaty, ecvept of course, in this case.
Why should the Arabs get back all the land they lost in 1967? Why should they get back Jerusalem? This wouod make Israel as vulnerable as it was at that time, when Arab armies felt free to launch a war of extermination every few years.
But the real sticker is the ‘right of return’. AS long as that is their demand, there can be no peace without the genocide of the Israelis.
So. Until the palestinian arabs are willing to make peace, they should have to pay the price. And the only way out is for the other Arab states to take them in. Whick, you are correct, they won't.
Islam, the religion of peace.
I have no strong conviction about that.
Seems to me it could happen before or after.
AND even a 2nd time
at the end of the thousand years of Peace.
I know a number of people seem to think it’s the next big event.
I’m not convinced of that but wouldn’t be greatly surprised.
Plenty truth in your post.
However . . . why take them in Jordan or Saudia Arabia?
Because they are Muslim “brothers” and were Jordanians. And because they’ve abused them for lo these many years as pawns
STRICTLY FOR PRIDE.
But that’s speaking sanity. They are not interested in sanity.
They are interested in pride and conquest.
Their hearts are evil toward Israel and they will pay accordingly.
I believe in 20 years what we will see is the
*NEW JERUSALEM* with Christ as King!
Blessed is he who comes in the Name of the LORD!
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
I’m getting increasingly homesick for THE KING
THE KINGDOM . . .
Interesting propaganda from an Iranian web site, Squidpup.
http://www.presstv.com/contactus.aspx
PRESS TV
6 East 2nd St.
Farhang Blvd. Saadatabad
19977 Tehran
IRAN
A Look at Iran
http://www.truthusa.com/IRAN.html
agreed and pointed out:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2207149/posts?page=4#4
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