Posted on 02/16/2009 10:49:57 AM PST by shielagolden
Thanks! hanging head and sighing
Mojitojoe wrote:
just one more thing for the next President to rescind.
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LOl. When? In 4 years? 8 Years? After he has changed the Constitution to make him our new Fidel. OPEN YOUR EYES. Everything isnt gonna be alright!
Dark, Dark Days ahead for America folks.
Best to put up funds for candidates for 2010. Too much bloodshed weakens the national resolve.
Also, at what point do they go en masse to Obongo and read him the Riot Act?
You cannot create a country based on freedom when millions live in slavery. Even the founders (some who owned slaves themselves) knew the hypocrisy of that.
Then leave us; who have no way out, and who would prefer to stand and fight for what is rightfully ours anyway.
In the meantime, do not insult those who would stand and fight, with your pessimism.
All this is the one world government movement. IE; Global warming. Collapse the world economy, only us ‘important’ people can fix the world. You laugh, hahaha, and the US would NEVER become Marxist. That cave in Idaho is looking pretty comfy.
"We The People" through the states. At the time the Constitution was written and ratified, people thought of their STATES as their countries. The people of the several STATES ratified the Constitution through their STATE legislatures, not through popular votes. Amendments to the Constitution must be ratified by the STATES, not directly by the people. The delicate separation of powers formula the Founders came up with was intended to reassure the small STATES that their interests would be protected in a federal system.
The Civil War drastically changed the relationship between the states and the federal government they created. In the 144 years since the Civil War ended, the federal government has increasingly stomped all over states rights. As a consequence, we now have a fed that is bloated beyond anything the Founders would have recognized or sanctioned.
To: mojitojoe
First, we will move permanently to our vacation home outside the US when we feel the time is right and when and if we choose. I do no tyrants bidding. I refuse to accept and play his game.
If this US goes in this direction, how long before the country where your vacation home is located follows the US ?
Believe me, The Global Poverty Act will soon make it's reappearance. Then gun control. Economic collapse and how 'bout some new currency after the dollar collapses. Add a few islamic 911's in our cities. We will be more than ready for the new order.
Badabing... One world government.
It's been in the works for years. Little by little, piece by piece. Everything you've witnessed in the past few weeks has been orchestrated and paid for by nefarious masters. Obama is just their 'sock puppet' and his rise to power just accelerated the process. It wouldn't surprise me if the next move would be to meld what's left of our gutted military with the UNs. and join up with the confederation to nix Israel. The bad moon has risen. Is the caliphate and sharia law that far away too? Obama even said he would side with the muslims if it got ugly.
One of the first clues, in this quick move towards globalism, was that we can't even see President Hussein's birth certificate and that viewing is protected by our very own courts.
Things are moving at breakneck speed. If I had read this post a decade ago, I would say it was good fiction. But then again, it was all posted eons ago in the Bible.
Yes, but you miss the point. In the legal framework established by the U.S. Constitution, the people act on the federal level through the states. Since 1860, much has happened to cloud and diminish states rights, but a genuinely real conservative never loses sight of the fact that the federal government is supposed to serve the states, not the other way around. And to serve the people through the states.
I hope this guy keeps going with this nonsense. It will bring things to a boil quicker than the Clintoon small cuts approach.
FMCDH(BITS)
I won't argue with your legal interpretation of how the Constitution is administered, or what the relationship of the states is to the federal government, but the Preamble to the Constitution is as clear to me in its meaning as the 2nd Amendment is.
That document is mine. It binds the earth together under my feet. I will treat it as mine, and will defend it at all costs, if necessary.
Great move for Obama. Then the One could prosecute anyone daring to oppose his policies or to run against him for various “hate” crimes or “crimes against humanity.”
Also see Article II. A treaty needs consent from 2/3rds of the Senate, which is even more than the super-majority required for cloture.
Will Obama get 67 Senators to comply?
-PJ
Obama cannot do that via sole executive action.
I believe that this would have to be by treaty, and congress has to ratify it ( 2/3 majority)before it would be effective. But read on, the wacko lefties are working out a way to circumvent the constitutional 2/3 vote requirement in the senate.
Secondly, the CIA and the Military would campaign in Congress against it, on the basis that US soldiers could refuse orders, or would cause enlistments to decline in our all volunteer military.( which leftist wackos want to have happen BTW.)
The " Bush is a War Criminal" leftists would prevent America from projecting power with its Air Craft Carrier Task forces for example, because they could not act without US sanctions, and such action would be criminal, with the Task Force Commander being arrested and tried at the Hague.
The purpose is to weaken military power of the USA and denude the USA of its hard earned sovereignty.
I do not believe that either China or Russia are signatories.
Time to stop this WHACKO leftist drivel.
It emboldens the World Caliphate Enemy and its US supporters to abuse our Republican system of government.
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ALSO THE WHACKOS ARE WORKING OVERTIME ON THIS:
Liberals Propose Fast-Tracking Treaties
AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | February 3, 2009
Translated into common language, this means that the treaty process takes too long and the treaty may ultimately be rejected by Senators reacting to popular pressure.
The liberal Brookings Institution has come up with a controversial way to get costly and unpopular treaties ratified by the U.S. Senate. Their answer is to bypass the constitutional requirement that treaties obtain two-thirds of the vote of the Senate before passage by redefining the treaties as statutes. Then, they would only need a bare majority for passage in both Houses of Congress, which just happen to be controlled by Democrats.
Such an approach would mean quicker and easier passage of controversial and expensive measures that, if debated as treaties in the Senate, might take too long and upset and alarm too many Americans (sic).
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/liberals-propose-fast-tracking-treaties/
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Such a " Brookings" approach would destroy democracy and put the treaty function into the hands of those enemies of US policy who would act to bind Americas sovereignty as it has been exercised traditionally beyond political partisan machination. The International crime Tribunal is a Liberal Fascist court whose laws depend on political correctness, and the diminution of a nations right to self defence and sovereign right to wage war, by attacking individuals inside government, the military, and intelligence agencies.It would weaken America, and give the MSM power to report and define" crimes" of US military personnel to the Tribunal.
IN TRUTH, THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL IS MERELY A TOOL OF THE FASCIST EURO LEFT AND US FASCIST LEFT WHACKOS WHO DENY U.S. SOVEREIGNTY:
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