Counties fighting back against state

SacBee: Capitol Alert ^ | 2/4/8 | Shane Goldmacher

[SmithL]

California's 58 counties, whose payments are currently being withheld by the state to conserve cash, are beginning to fight back against Sacramento.

In Riverside County, the board of supervisors voted to sue the state to compel billions in payments for county-run social programs that the the state has put a money hold on. If the money doesn't begin to flow, supervisors voted to relieve the county of the legal responsibility to run programs like welfare and mental health services.

The Riverside Press-Enterprise has the details.

"We have been like punching bags and we have just been taking the punches," Supervisor Jeff Stone said. "Our financial integrity in this county is at stake if we don't take this very strong stand and draw a line in the sand to the state. . . . No money, no services."

In Los Angeles, the county is threatening to withhold any county revenues due to the state to fund local health and social services programs.

Great quote in the Los Angeles Times from Supervisor Gloria Molina: "We're declaring our own Boston Tea Party."

The legality of which is in question.

The Schwarzenegger administration, meanwhile, threatened retaliation

[April Lexington]

Assuming the Union holds together... I think California should be split up and the Constitution (assuming that old thing is still relevant) should be amended to require states to split into separate states when its population exceeds a certain percent of the national population. That way, the Pelosis of the world wouldn't have the power to destroy the Union. Split California into 5 states and sell everything south of Pasadena to Mexico for Gold!!!

[Niuhuru]

So long as it stays on that side of the country.

[Fox_Mulder77]

If counties refuse to pay the taxes to the state, can taxpayers refuse to pay the taxes to the counties?

LOLOL!! I'm surprised there are still any "taxpayers" left in California!!

[Little Ray]

More popcorn!

[cuz_it_aint_their_money]

If they can pull this off out on the left coast (Jefferson State), maybe we can pawn Philadelphia off on New Jersey.
Hey, I can dream, can’t I?

[PA-RIVER]

The bankrupt Feds will step in and bail out the bankrupt state of California.

Then the fiscally responsible states will begin to fight with the feds as the Feds bleed them dry.

We are seeing what the Romans saw a 1000 years ago.
They had Nero, we have Obama.

[comrade-yuri-andropov]

Counties are creations of the state. They have no rights (I’d have to read the California state constitution to be certain.)

[dragnet2]

The bankrupt Feds will step in and bail out the bankrupt state of California.

That's because the fish rots from the head.

Ya see the states have become like corporate stores or company branches, with the Federal Government being the corporate headquarters.

[Lurker]

The Schwarzenegger administration, meanwhile, threatened retaliation

What's he going to do, not give them any money?

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[Navy Patriot]

Hey, I can dream, can’t I?

Maybe closer than a dream.

Public employees are starting to fight each other. They may try for taxpayer allies by insubordination to the big taxers and help shove off the entitlement parasites onto the urban cesspools.

[PapaBear3625]

If counties refuse to pay the taxes to the state, can taxpayers refuse to pay the taxes to the counties?

That's not what they're saying. The counties don't send money. The state sends money to the counties to run welfare and mental health programs. The counties are saying "if we don't get the payments, then we are not providing the services".

I'd actually like to see a few counties shut down their welfare offices and send their clients elsewhere.

[SmithL]

Different counties are using different strategies:

Riverside is saying “no money, no services” while LA is saying that they’ll keep the money.

[Right Cal Gal]

Considering the rich agricultural lands of California are red counties, I suggest we simply split the state along the coastline, which is where all the blue meanies live anyway. They can keep Hollywierd and we get the San Joaquin and Imperial Valleys. We’ll let San Diego County vote which end it wants.

[April Lexington]

Sounds good! But... I heard from Obama’s new EPA guy that California's farmland is all going to disappear unless we tax ourselves silly over carbon emissions!

[ridesthemiles]

Maybe I should stack up on canned food and shotgun shells.”

MAYBE????? MAYBE???

You should have been doing that all day on Nov 4, IMO.

Hope you can find a way to stay safe.
Kalifornia is just a spark away froma revolution, IMO.

Glad I don’t live there any longer.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I live in the foothills and we are trying to save our state! Not all of Cali is crazy liberal.

C’mon buddy, you understand fighting for what you believe in, don’t you?

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

I wondered if you can submit an IOU to the state in lieu of payment of your taxes.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Look at the bottom of every page of FreeRepublic. Yup, FR is right in the heart of California: the red county of Fresno.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Great idea! We can starve them out... how long can they live on wine and artichokes?

Can we have Salinas Valley too, please?

[MrB]

I’m getting my tax return done ASAP
so that perhaps I’ll get my refund back before
they think of trying this “delaying of refunds”
on a national level.