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Robert E. Lee: Icon of the South -- and American Hero
Spectator.org ^ | 2007 | H.W. Crocker, III

Posted on 01/18/2009 8:58:52 PM PST by GonzoII

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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Gvnana made a good observation because suggesting that the Confederates were tricked to fight in a rigged process which benefited only the rich based on your rigid two alternatives -which were not so different in the end: you are indeed proposing a Hegelian Dialectic.


61 posted on 01/20/2009 10:19:36 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The northern policy of “total war” where they bombarded
civilian southern populations as well as military targets
does not substantiate the idea that the North was “liberating” the South.
62 posted on 01/21/2009 8:39:09 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: upcountryhorseman
The northern policy of “total war” where they bombarded civilian southern populations as well as military targets does not substantiate the idea that the North was “liberating” the South.

The citizens of such diverse southern locales as Knoxville, TN and Red Clay, Georgia would beg to disagree with you because they welcomed the advancing blue army as heroes of deliverance. In many places the Union's total war was less painful the rebs' policy of total control through oppressive government intrusion and misgovernment. Where the Yankee army advanced in the South, Confederate murders and extortion ceased.

63 posted on 01/21/2009 10:54:34 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: MBB1984
In addition, you should know than many of the free soilers held their beliefs to live free of blacks.

Many free soilers helped escaping blacks migrate to Canada, thereby encouraging them to move north. The free soilers from the West (or with plans to migrate there) just didn't want to have to compete with slave labor enterprises. Do you fault them for that?

64 posted on 01/22/2009 9:07:00 PM PST by ravinson
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“Robert E. Lee vigorously opposed slavery and as early as 1856 made this statement: “There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil.”

=== The above is a contextomy (context has been removed)
=== Full quote follows
http://www.civilwarhome.com/leepierce.htm

I was much pleased the with President’s message. His views of the systematic and progressive efforts of certain people at the North to interfere with and change the domestic institutions of the South are truthfully and faithfully expressed. The consequences of their plans and purposes are also clearly set forth. These people must be aware that their object is both unlawful and foreign to them and to their duty, and that this institution, for which they are irresponsible and non-accountable, can only be changed by them through the agency of a civil and servile war. There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. It is idle to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it is a greater evil to the white than to the colored race. While my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more deeply engaged for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, physically, and socially. The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their further instruction as a race, and will prepare them, I hope, for better things. How long their servitude may be necessary is known and ordered by a merciful Providence. Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influences of Christianity than from the storm and tempest of fiery controversy. This influence, though slow, is sure. The doctrines and miracles of our Saviour have required nearly two thousand years to convert but a small portion of the human race, and even among Christian nations what gross errors still exist! While we see the course of the final abolition of human slavery is still onward, and give it the aid of our prayers, let us leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences, and with whom a thousand years are but as a single day. Although the abolitionist must know this, must know that he has neither the right not the power of operating, except by moral means; that to benefit the slave he must not excite angry feelings in the master; that, although he may not approve the mode by which Providence accomplishes its purpose, the results will be the same; and that the reason he gives for interference in matters he has no concern with, holds good for every kind of interference with our neighbor, -still, I fear he will persevere in his evil course. . . . Is it not strange that the descendants of those Pilgrim Fathers who crossed the Atlantic to preserve their own freedom have always proved the most intolerant of the spiritual liberty of others?


65 posted on 05/05/2011 6:45:46 PM PDT by bitjuglr (If you think it takes a village ... then at least listen to the village)
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