Statement on U.S. torture may have unexpected fallout

International Herald Tribune ^ | January 17, 2009 | Scott Shane

[Brad’s Gramma]

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SO THIS SHIVERING PATHETIC SNIVELING
SHADOW OF A DOG CAN GET OUT OF OUR SIGHT!

[phatus maximus]

It’s hard to believe even the most anti-American leftists could be so stupid, and I don’t think they believe their own lies.

I disagree, I think they 10000% believe their lies and that’s what is so disturbing.

[angkor]

Khmer Rouge waterboarding at S-21 prison in Phnom Penh. The table and bucket are the actual implements used at S-21, which is now a museum and where this picture was taken. I have been there and can validate that this is an accurate and unstaged photo.

[TET1968]

Well then can we at least behead the bastards on live TV?
With a dull blade?

[Question_Assumptions]

I think the problem is that there is a significant distinction between physically mutilating a person or doing them lasting harm (e.g., burning cigarettes, cutting, amputation, putting eyes out, rape, etc.) which we would never allow the military to submit a member of our own military to for training and causing someone pain or discomfort in a way that does no lasting harm (e.g., sleep deprivation, repeating songs over and over again, waterboarding, etc.) which we do subject some members of our own military to for training. In the sense that they are unpleasant and coercive, both are “torture”. In terms of morality and vileness, I think the first sort thing is a very different beast than the second sort of thing. And as for your point about murdering psychopaths, I think the humane treatment of prisoners should apply to enemies where we have some expectation of humane treatment for our own people if captured by the enemy as a reward. While I think we should err on the side of humanity, I don’t think would are obliged to show the same sort of restraint against opponents who brutalize and do unspeakable things to their captives, even when they are innocent civilians

[johnnycap]

They’ll see how impotent they get when our CIA and Military refuse to give any sort of real effort to achieving the objectives of Obama and Holder. It’ll become clear real fast that when you dis the people who do the ugly jobs, you quickly become a paper tiger.

[MarkL]

Leftists NEVER consider the consequences of their actions, as long as it meets their needs at the time, and it makes them “feel better.”

Mark