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To: Celtman
Even if this is so (and I am not conceding the point), applying for, receiving, and using an Indonesian psssport were actions taken by Obama himself.

If he, in fact, did so. The whole passport story stems from the claim that U.S. citizens were forbidden from traveling to Pakistan in 1981 and so Obama must have travelled on an Indonesian passport. In the first place that wasn't so, citizens may have been warned not to travel there but there is no evidence supporting the claim that they were forbidden to travel there. In fact during the first half of 1981 the U.S. was announcing multi-billion dollar aid packages for Pakistan and talking about resuming delivery of F-16's. Secondly, Obama left Indonesia when he was 10 and never lived there again. How and where did he get an Indonesian passport? Finally, dual citizenship is not against the law, so even if Obama had a foreign passport it would not count as an expatriating act. He would have had to formally swear allegiance to Indonesia and disavow any further loyalty to the U.S. Since he was in school at the time that's highly unlikely.

357 posted on 12/04/2008 1:26:37 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Finally, dual citizenship is not against the law, so ...

Neither is being a naturalized citizen, but neither of these comply with the intent of the founders' that US presidents should have no divided loyalties.

387 posted on 12/04/2008 2:29:56 PM PST by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
He did travel to Indonesia, Pakistan, and somewhere else that fails me in 1981. The thought is that he traveled to Pakistan to renew his passport for travel and to use for admission to all of the prestigious schools that he attended. This allowed him to apply for foreign aid. Same as his father. Probably why he made it into Harvard since it wasn't due to grades or coming from a wealthy family.

I know no matter how I tried there would be no way I could get my kids into Harvard and I don't live that far away from it. Just would never happen in my life. So, what got him in?

I would love to see his records at all 3 schools that he attended. That would prove or disprove the citizenship issue as well.
402 posted on 12/04/2008 2:46:55 PM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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