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A Fight Among Catholics Over Which Party Best Reflects Church Teachings
New York Times ^ | October 4, 2008 | David D. Kirkpatrick

Posted on 10/05/2008 6:11:38 AM PDT by reaganaut1

As the Roman Catholic Church observes its annual “respect life” Sunday in this heated presidential election season, the unusually pitched competition for Catholic voters is setting off a round of skirmishes over how to apply the church’s teachings not only on abortion but also on the war in Iraq, immigration and racism.

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The escalating efforts by more-liberal Catholics are provoking a vigorous backlash from some bishops and the right.

In Scranton, Pa., every Catholic attending Mass this weekend will hear a special homily about the election next month: Bishop Joseph Martino has ordered every priest in the diocese to read a letter warning that voting for a supporter of abortion rights amounts to endorsing “homicide.”

“Being ‘right’ on taxes, education, health care, immigration and the economy fails to make up for the error of disregarding the value of a human life,” the bishop wrote. “It is a tragic irony that ‘pro-choice’ candidates have come to support homicide — the gravest injustice a society can tolerate — in the name of ‘social justice.’ ”

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To underscore the point, a nun is collecting the signatures of prominent Catholic leaders there for a newspaper advertisement reminding those who may be wary of voting for Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the Democratic nominee for president, that the church also considers racism a sin that threatens the dignity of life.

“Here in Scranton, racist attitudes often prevent us from seeing all of our fellow citizens and candidates for public office as God’s children,” says the petition, circulated by Sister Margaret P. Gannon, a professor at Marywood University.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholics; catholicvote; election08; pa2008; religiousleft; schism
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1 posted on 10/05/2008 6:11:39 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Gee. This is a tough one. I would think abortion would be a non-starter.

I guess the NYT doesn’t really expect that should factor in strongly enough to override everything else.


2 posted on 10/05/2008 6:13:47 AM PDT by rlmorel (Who is Saul Alinsky and why is Barack Obama a disciple of his methods?)
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To: reaganaut1

Well duh! They have to be reminded?


3 posted on 10/05/2008 6:14:01 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: reaganaut1

Good. “Community Organize” this, Barry....


4 posted on 10/05/2008 6:14:32 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: reaganaut1
That is becoming an increasingly difficult choice considering the GOP has been incrementally moving towards the socialist Democrats ideology in an effort to expand the GOP voting base. They are essentially becoming one party.
5 posted on 10/05/2008 6:15:40 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: reaganaut1

HAHAHAHA! Man if Catholics can’t figure this one out, they need to give up or realize they really don’t believe in Jesus Christ.


6 posted on 10/05/2008 6:15:46 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: reaganaut1
1. Protecting innocent life is paramount.
2. Charity does not involve a threat of prison.
3. The St. Vincent de Paul society and Catholic Charities doesn't just hand out money to bums like the gubment does.
4. It has been proven time and again that all other things being equal, conservative voluntary charity far outstrips what libs give.
7 posted on 10/05/2008 6:16:27 AM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: reaganaut1

*Real* Catholics wouldn’t *dream* of voting for a RAT today.Kennedy/Kerry/Pelosi “Catholics”....the ones who adhere to the Nine Suggestions instead of the Ten Commandments.....have no trouble so doing.


8 posted on 10/05/2008 6:17:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: SampleMan

Let’s see, the Demoncrat Party’s nominee for president uses the tactics of a man who dedicated his book to Lucifer. Nuff said.


9 posted on 10/05/2008 6:18:36 AM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: reaganaut1

Doug Kmiec must have been promised a nomination to the Supreme Court!


10 posted on 10/05/2008 6:21:33 AM PDT by ethics
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To: reaganaut1
Perhaps it is time to revisit Pope Benedict's address to the White House:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N16338045.htm
 
 

11 posted on 10/05/2008 6:22:03 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Just the formula, ma'am.)
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To: reaganaut1
Actually...make that Eight Suggestions.Numbers 5 and 6 have been dropped completely by the Kennedy/Kerry/Pelosi wing of the Church.
12 posted on 10/05/2008 6:22:55 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: reaganaut1

The fact that this is even a subject for an article sickens me.

LLS


13 posted on 10/05/2008 6:26:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: reaganaut1
“Being ‘right’ on taxes, education, health care, immigration and the economy fails to make up for the error of disregarding the value of a human life,” the bishop wrote.

Well Bish, they aren't right on any of those issues.

Taxes: They want high taxes which directly cut into your bottom line at the collection plate to do the social work you should be doing(of course they give you money as Catholic Charities, don't they)

Education; if they were right they would allow vouchers for Catholic schools. Wouldn't they?

Healthcare: They want the Canadian/English/Cuban form of single payer/universal health care. AKA "Commie-care" You seem OK with that.

in the name of "social justice"

Just a Catholic word for Communism. Where do you think you are...Italy?

14 posted on 10/05/2008 6:26:35 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: reaganaut1

One of my favorite bumper stickers is that you can not be Catholic and pro-abortion.


15 posted on 10/05/2008 6:28:46 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I'm voting against Obama. McCain sucks less.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
One Saturday last election cycle, I was working next to a Catholic church that was having a wedding. I couldn't believe how many cars had "Catholics for Kerry" bumper stickers.

I really wished I had some that said "No fetus can beat us" to slap on next to them.

How can those folks call themselves Catholics?

16 posted on 10/05/2008 6:35:59 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: reaganaut1

The real bias Gwen Iifil exhibited the other night (omission) was on one of Sarah’s strongest issues. She knew that SP is a witness to life as opposed to mealy mouth Biden. All this cycle the media has downplayed abortion as an issue but they know she wins this one because for the first time we have a candidate who radiates authentic Motherhood (Todd reflecting authentic Fatherhood) and justifies the difficult choice in service to Life. I was VERY impressed when she called Trig a “Sign of Hope”, this is a very deep reality that only the humblest,most loving people KNOW.


17 posted on 10/05/2008 6:38:54 AM PDT by lmc12
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To: reaganaut1

It’s nice to know that the NYT is the final source of authority for Catholics...sarc


18 posted on 10/05/2008 6:40:04 AM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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To: reaganaut1

It’s not a “fight”

Not even close!

Why is it that nuns seem to be pro Obama? Bitter women?

How can any Catholic condone Obama’s record on ending innocent life before it is born and...even after.


19 posted on 10/05/2008 6:40:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: littlehouse36

interesting to note that Trig was born the day after the Pope’s Mass at Nationals Stadium, not claiming a Catholic X-Files episode but certainly worthy of a little reflection.


20 posted on 10/05/2008 6:40:56 AM PDT by lmc12
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