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Senate offers sugar with bailout rx
Politico ^ | 10/01/2008 | DAVID ROGERS |

Posted on 10/01/2008 7:11:07 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

The Senate hopes to revive Treasury’s $700 billion financial rescue plan Wednesday night by packaging it together with more than $100 billion in popular tax breaks as well as aid to rural schools important to House Republicans.

To calm voters fearful of bank failures, the $100,000 cap on federal insurance for deposits would also be raised to $250,000—a concession backed by both parties but also aimed at community banks who can be helpful in building small town support for the larger bill.

Both presidential candidates, Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama, are slated to return for two important roll calls Wednesday evening, and Obama appears to be playing an increased role in shoring up support among House Democrats after the bill failed Monday.

Senate leaders are confident that they can prevail, but the strategy is not without risks in the House given the added costs of the tax package. Congressional Budget Office estimates indicate that the net impact will be to add almost $105 billion to an already large deficit next year, and fiscal conservatives will feel they are being straight-armed by the Senate which has refused to do more to offset the costs.

The biggest single piece in the package is an extension of protections for millions of middle class families who would otherwise find themselves exposed to the higher levy under the alternative minimum tax. This alone accounts for about three quarters of the cost or $78.8 billion in 2009. Almost $14 billion more can be attributed to a variety of tax break extensions important to business, including the R&E credit worth about $8.4 billion in 2009.

The rural school aid is smaller —about $3.3 billion over the next five years— but has great importance for many Western communities and could be important then in the House.

Yet many House Democrats are already upset that Republicans and the White House had rejected their effort to require Treasury to impose a fee on Wall Street transactions in five years to help recoup any taxpayer losses. The expanded Senate package would compound this loss and puts Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Cal.) in an awkward spot since she has vowed to stand up for these moderates in her caucus.

“The Senate has made a decision about how to proceed and what can pass that body," Pelosi said in a statement Tuesday night. "The Senate will vote tomorrow night and the Congress will work its will. House Democrats remain strongly committed to a comprehensive bill that stabilizes the financial markets, restores confidence, and protects taxpayers, and we hope Congress can agree on legislation in the very near future."

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) also warned on Wednesday morning that adding tax extenders might cause Democratic votes to drop of.

Speaking on The Today Show on NBC, Hoyer said he was “not particularly pleased” that the Senate has decided to add a set of tax breaks to the bailout package.

"There's no doubt the tax package is very controversial," Hoyer said.

Soon after the defeat in the House Monday, the administration and leadership began exploring ways to revive Treasury’s plan in the Senate, where it has enjoyed more bipartisan support. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) took the lead but he was also helped by the fact that his chief negotiator on the Treasury bill, Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) enjoys a good humored, working relationship with Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.)

“The voters sent us here to respond to crises, not to ignore them," McConnell said. "And if you fail the first time, you get back up, and you work with each other.”

Reid had been fearful that he would be drawn into prolonged negotiations about changes in the core Treasury plan. But the decision to raise the cap on insurance for savings deposits won wide support Tuesday, and as a practical matter, all sides know they must deal with the tax extenders now or risk having to come back into session after the November elections.

“This is a brilliant move by Harry, and I believe it will help pick up votes on both sides of the aisle,” said Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.)

How brilliant will rest on the House reaction. The White House itself was somewhat apprehensive Tuesday night until it has seen a better vote count. And if Pelosi starts to lose Democrats who voted for the bill Monday, that means the burden will be even greater on House Republicans to increase their numbers from the 65 who backed the plan then.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout
So.... Congress is back with the SOS on the table. But now they think the idiot taxpayers will glady buy into this Socialistic buyout plan because they are tossing $100 Billion in tax breaks?

They're voting tonight. This should be a very, very busy day.

Call you congress critters. Tell them NO!

1 posted on 10/01/2008 7:11:08 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
It's only 451 pages right now so it will be a breeze to read...Evelyn Wood, are you there?

VOTE NO!

emailed Sen. Menendez for what its worth, trying Lautenberg now, server seems to be dead like him. Will call them both as well.

2 posted on 10/01/2008 7:18:52 AM PDT by frogjerk (VOTE NO!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
They're voting tonight.

Thank God they are voting while the Market is closed this time. Of course, things could get interesting at opening Thursday morning.
3 posted on 10/01/2008 7:19:51 AM PDT by GreyWolf (My $.02)
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To: Responsibility2nd
STOCK MARKET DROPS ON FEARS OF SENATE BAILOUT GIVE-AWAY.
4 posted on 10/01/2008 7:21:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Will Rogers: Every law Congress makes is a joke and every joke they tell becomes a law.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
To calm voters fearful of bank failures, the $100,000 cap on federal insurance for deposits would also be raised to $250,000

How many voters do you know who have over $100,000 in their bank account? It might be a good idea to raise the FDIC limit, but it ain't being done in order to help voters, or anyone else on Main Street.

5 posted on 10/01/2008 7:22:14 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: Responsibility2nd

If they don’t change the incentives that caused the banking problem, the BAILOUT WILL NOT WORK.


6 posted on 10/01/2008 7:22:26 AM PDT by GOPJ (It's NOT a rescue it's a BAILOUT.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Are they going to do ANYTHING about the laws mandating 100% loans for “Affordable Housing “?
Without removing the cause, any cure is a useless waste of funds
7 posted on 10/01/2008 7:23:21 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Call you congress critters

I called my senators the other day, but I tried again this morning and can't get through. Then I tried to send one of those internal emails, evidently their server has crashed or they're just loaded because I either get a server error message or a denial of service message.

Anybody know the email address for Nelson and Martinez of Florida?

8 posted on 10/01/2008 7:32:04 AM PDT by Dawn531
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To: Responsibility2nd
Cut taxes now? Were putting the debt clock into maximum overdrive. What comes after trillions, bazzillions?
9 posted on 10/01/2008 7:32:10 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Below are the results from a current AT&T/Yahoo poll:

Do you want the $700 billion bailout to be passed? Results
Q. Stunned by a House defeat on Monday, supportive lawmakers along with President Bush are again warning that if the proposed $700 billion bailout plan to buy bad mortgages and other “rotten” bank debts is not passed quickly, America — and the world — is vulnerable to a serious recession. Critics and protesters say the current plan does not include sufficient oversight, and taxpayers should not be put on the hook for the staggering price tag.

What do you think? Should the $700 billion bailout be approved?

Yes. It may not be a perfect plan, but we must take action. 24%
No. I think we need a plan, but this bill still needs work so taxpayers can be protected. 38%
No. I don’t think we need any plan. The markets can right themselves without our intervention. 35%
Not sure/No opinion 3%

29856 votes


10 posted on 10/01/2008 7:42:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Forgot to post the link if Freepers want to vote:

Ongoing AT&T/Yahoo poll on the bailout:

http://js.polls.yahoo.com/quiz/quiziframe.php?poll_id=39543

Do you want the $700 billion bailout to be passed?

Q. Stunned by a House defeat on Monday, supportive lawmakers along with President Bush are again warning that if the proposed $700 billion bailout plan to buy bad mortgages and other “rotten” bank debts is not passed quickly, America — and the world — is vulnerable to a serious recession. Critics and protesters say the current plan does not include sufficient oversight, and taxpayers should not be put on the hook for the staggering price tag.

What do you think? Should the $700 billion bailout be approved?

Yes. It may not be a perfect plan, but we must take action. 24%
No. I think we need a plan, but this bill still needs work so taxpayers can be protected. 38%
No. I don’t think we need any plan. The markets can right themselves without our intervention. 35%
Not sure/No opinion 3%

30891 votes


11 posted on 10/01/2008 7:47:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Will McCain lead by voting no or fall in line and vote yes?

His campaign hangs in the balance.
12 posted on 10/01/2008 7:50:42 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: Responsibility2nd

Tax cuts have to be accompanied by spending cuts. The 2 trillion dollar bailout is not a spending cut.


13 posted on 10/01/2008 7:52:35 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Responsibility2nd
They're trying to bribe us with our own money. HELL NO! If its bad without earmarks, just imagine how bad it is with a passel of goodies stuffed in it!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 10/01/2008 8:42:17 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dawn531
I called my senators the other day, but I tried again this morning and can't get through. Then I tried to send one of those internal emails, evidently their server has crashed or they're just loaded because I either get a server error message or a denial of service message. Anybody know the email address for Nelson and Martinez of Florida?,

.

Google your senators and go to their own www page. They all have a way to Email under 'contact' that is a www system with boxes that you can type in and click 'send'.

15 posted on 10/01/2008 8:53:21 AM PDT by dickmc
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To: dickmc

That’s what I tried and I either get a “server error” or a denial of service notice.


16 posted on 10/01/2008 9:14:11 AM PDT by Dawn531
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To: Responsibility2nd
Senate offers sugar with bailout rx

"Bailout Rx?"

This sucks so much it should be "Bailout XXX."

17 posted on 10/01/2008 9:19:37 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Obama without a teleprompter speaks in tongues.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t see how raising the FDIC limit helps small banks.

If people understood the FDIC insurance, the LOWER limit would help small banks, because people with a lot of money would have to find multiple banks to deposit their cash, which would likely mean extra deposits to smaller, local banks.

Allowing a larger limit just means people can consolidate their money in one big bank.


18 posted on 10/01/2008 9:39:31 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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