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AP: AIG says signs deal for $85 billion from Fed (can't be posted here)
9-23-08

Posted on 09/23/2008 9:11:18 PM PDT by STARWISE

Federal government (US) is said to be getting 80% of AIG, the largest insurer on the globe.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aig; bailout; federalreserve; financialcrisis
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1 posted on 09/23/2008 9:11:18 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

Happy that I own some AIG stock if this true.

Sad that this is just the beginning of a dirty march.


2 posted on 09/23/2008 9:13:49 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Barry, you're more racist than 99% of Americans. And you're ugly.)
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My question: since the FBI is investigating AIG, how does this affect the acquisition by US?


3 posted on 09/23/2008 9:14:22 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Woo hoo, I own AIG!


4 posted on 09/23/2008 9:16:33 PM PDT by Onerom99
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

How many shares does this come out to per taxpayer?


5 posted on 09/23/2008 9:16:54 PM PDT by Onerom99
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To: Onerom99

2.7 billion shares outstanding X .80 ..... :-\


6 posted on 09/23/2008 9:20:12 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Barry, you're more racist than 99% of Americans. And you're ugly.)
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To: Onerom99

I don’t know how many taxpayers there are, but if we’re using all Americans as the figure, approx 9 shares per person.


7 posted on 09/23/2008 9:21:12 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Barry, you're more racist than 99% of Americans. And you're ugly.)
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To: STARWISE

Good. Now they can deduct 80% off my premiums.


9 posted on 09/23/2008 9:22:17 PM PDT by crz
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To: Onerom99

Btw, my comment about being happy was very rueful, in case you didn’t catch it. My shares of AIG were worth 60 apiece in April. They were trading in single digits, last I checked.


10 posted on 09/23/2008 9:23:35 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Barry, you're more racist than 99% of Americans. And you're ugly.)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

Yeah, they are diluting shares 5 to 1, so they are getting 80% of the AIG in newly printed pieces of paper.

If you owned AIG shares prior to that, congradulations, you just lost 80% of their worth.


11 posted on 09/23/2008 9:23:44 PM PDT by EddieUSA
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To: EddieUSA

Read my #10. I’m glad I only have 100 shares. I’ve got 5 or 6 individual stocks invested in and the rest are doing well. The rest of my portfolio is in indexes.


12 posted on 09/23/2008 9:25:46 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Barry, you're more racist than 99% of Americans. And you're ugly.)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney
Happy that I own some AIG stock if this true. And now your company has been nationalized.

What a Country. Profits are Privatized and Losses are Nationalized.

13 posted on 09/23/2008 9:26:38 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Read my #10. I see my memory is a bit faulty on the value but I was just joking.


14 posted on 09/23/2008 9:28:23 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Barry, you're more racist than 99% of Americans. And you're ugly.)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

Actually, 80% loss is on top of what shares cost now, not 6 month ago or a year ago. Since they got the bail-out, it’s not reflected in trading price, but the way it works is,

If company has total of 100 shares, each share costing $1, total company worth $100.

If company prints another 900 shares, it magically doesn’t cost 9 times more. So, $100 company worth, devided by 100 shares, = $0.10.


15 posted on 09/23/2008 9:32:05 PM PDT by EddieUSA
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

Actually, 80% loss is on top of what shares cost now, not 6 month ago or a year ago. Since they got the bail-out, it’s not reflected in trading price, but the way it works is,

If company has total of 100 shares, each share costing $1, total company worth $100.

If company prints another 900 shares, it magically doesn’t cost 9 times more. So, $100 company worth, devided by 1000 shares, = $0.10.


16 posted on 09/23/2008 9:33:16 PM PDT by EddieUSA
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To: trumandogz
What a Country. Profits are Privatized and Losses are Nationalized.

Well at least the .gov is such dumbasses they didn't figure out that if they did it the other way around then they could have gone socialist much faster...and made a profit doing it.

17 posted on 09/23/2008 9:46:25 PM PDT by Domandred (McWhathisname / Palin - 2008)
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To: Domandred

They have figured it out. It is called Taxes.

The Gov, Taxes your profits but pays Wall Street to cover their losses.

So, in other words, the taxes I pay because I am successful go to pay people who fail at their investments.

Makes me want to Puke!


18 posted on 09/23/2008 9:49:23 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: STARWISE

Gee, wonder if anybody (named Eliot Spitzer) is feeling a little bad about what they did to Hank Greenberg now.

(Greenberg was the guy who built AIG and their failure to manage their recent liquidity problem happened because he wasn’t around to foresee this and prevent it. And the new CEO was too incompetent and arrogant to even call in Hank to assist).

AIG refused, arrogantly, to accept short term loans for other private firms because they thought they could avoid the margin calls by regulators in NY.

I don’t think the AIG rescue effort by the Fed was a bad idea. It was collateralized and it is short term and it is very, very low risk. And it prevented a very good, secure company from getting raided by short sellers which would have essentially put half the financial companies in NY out of business because they would have been uninsured and the NY Insurance Commission doesn’t have the kind of funds to cover AIGs entire portfolio even for Wall Street.


19 posted on 09/23/2008 10:02:31 PM PDT by bpjam (If an enemy chooses you as his executioner, don't be rude by refusing.)
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To: STARWISE

well that should kill the stock. convertible preferred instead of warrants to boot.


20 posted on 09/23/2008 11:15:07 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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