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Valero's Refineries Update
Valero ^ | September 17, 2008

Posted on 09/17/2008 10:26:41 AM PDT by Petruchio

Valero's Refineries Update - Hurricane Ike Update 10 10:08 a.m. CDT San Antonio, TX September 17, 2008

The Valero Houston Refinery is in the preliminary stages of a multi-day restart process. The plant has power and steam, as well as a limited supply of industrial gases. Production at the main process units is not expected for several more days, and adequate supplies of external industrial gases remain an issue. Valero continues to work through issues at the Texas City and Port Arthur refineries, and we are not yet ready to discuss a timetable either for when startup would begin or how long the startups would take. Valero's other Gulf Coast refineries remain in operation at planned rates. Valero's refinery in Ardmore, Okla. remains at reduced rates due to supply issues.

In addition, there have been several questions about how refinery and pipeline outages will affect retail gasoline prices. Valero’s top priority at this time is the safe and efficient restart of its three refineries shut down by Hurricane Ike, because resupplying the market will take care of supply disruptions. In the meantime, we have had very limited price changes at our company-operated retail stores to the point where we are losing money on fuel sales. We do not control the pricing decisions of customers who buy from us, including branded wholesalers. We do expect that our branded wholesale customers will keep consumers' interests in mind in the wake of Hurricane Ike.

Valero now has reopened 90 company-operated retail stores in the Houston region and is continuing to reopen more at a rapid pace.


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After a bit of digging I did find this wee bit of info on refinery status in TX. Valero shut down 3 refineries due to Ike. The first of three is starting the restart process that will take a few days.

I am in the Midwest, so I have no idea how many refineries were shut down and who owns them. Perhaps some other FReepers will jump in and help dig up info on what is going on. The MSM is silent on this. I also have no clue on pipeline damages or restart plans.

1 posted on 09/17/2008 10:26:41 AM PDT by Petruchio
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To: Petruchio
Majority of Ike-affected Refineries Back Up This Week - Analyst
2 posted on 09/17/2008 10:30:55 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Petruchio

EIA Report on Hurricane Impacts on U.S. Energy
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/special/hurricanes/gustav.html?featureclicked=1&;

1.3 million barrels per day (or about 95 percent) of the federal portion of the Gulf of Mexico’s crude oil production was shut-in

12 refineries in Texas and Louisiana that are shut down ahead of Hurricane Ike. These 12 refineries have a total capacity of 3.0 million barrels per day (about 17 percent of U.S. operable capacity), and represent about 1.1 million barrels per day of gasoline output (about 12 percent of U.S. gasoline demand in September) and over 700,000 barrels per day of distillate fuel output (about 18 percent of U.S. demand in September

6.2 billion cubic feet per day (or well over 80 percent) of the federal portion of the Gulf of Mexico’s natural gas production was shut-in


3 posted on 09/17/2008 10:32:07 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Petruchio

Gas peaked at 4.15/gal here in Indy over the weekend. (although some of the “surge” was due to our traditional “welcome race fans” with the Moto Grand Prix in town).
It’s started sliding now, and I expect prices near $3/gal or lower by October.


4 posted on 09/17/2008 10:32:41 AM PDT by nascarnation
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Explorer: Ready for Midwest Shipments When Supply Allows
5 posted on 09/17/2008 10:34:15 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Petruchio

Valero has been the first and almost only gas station(s) to open up since Ike came a calling.


6 posted on 09/17/2008 10:34:42 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: b4its2late
From your link:

Oil companies are working to assess damage and restart operations at Texas refineries in the path of Hurricane Ike. Here's where they stood Monday evening:

Exxon Mobil: Its Baytown refinery, the largest in the U.S., has power and should be running this week. Its Beaumont refinery does not have power.

Valero: Its Houston refinery has power. Valero is working to restore power to its Texas City and Port Arthur refineries.

BP: Its Texas City refinery, the second-largest in the area, experienced no significant flooding. Employees are working with local authorities and utilities to restore power and water.

Shell: Its Deer Park refinery, the third-largest in the area, has utilities.

SOURCES: The companies

7 posted on 09/17/2008 10:37:23 AM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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The ExxonMobil Beaumont refinery has more problems than just lack of power. Parts of the facility were under 4~5 feet of water. Assessments are still ongoing.
8 posted on 09/17/2008 10:45:11 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Petruchio
From ExxonMobil website


9 posted on 09/17/2008 10:46:00 AM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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Startup is going to take a looooong time. The profiteering right now is astronomical.


10 posted on 09/17/2008 10:58:49 AM PDT by hsrazorback1 (To get what you had, do what you did.)
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The profiteering right now is astronomical.

>Exactly. And the media is complicit by their silence on the condition of the Refineries affected. This is my feeble attempt to get the information out.

11 posted on 09/17/2008 11:18:54 AM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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Shell and BP are not posting updates on their websites.


12 posted on 09/17/2008 12:34:38 PM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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http://www.ogj.com/display_article/339805/7/ONART/none/GenIn/1/MARKET-WATCH:-Energy-prices-continue-to-fall/

Shell Oil Co. said the 332,000 b/d Deer Park, Tex., refinery and chemical plant was in the initial phase of restarting operations, with normal operating rates expected in 5-7 days. The Deer Park refinery is jointly owned by Shell and Mexican state oil firm Petroleos Mexicanos.

Motiva Enterprises LLC (a Shell-Saudi Aramco joint venture) said minor repairs were underway at its Port Arthur refinery, which was without power Sept. 16. “A priority is establishing generator power to enable movements of gasoline and diesel in inventory to the pipeline distribution system. It is too early to predict when the refinery will resume normal operations,” officials said.

Motiva’s Norco, La., refinery was operating at 80% of capacity, limited by dependent resources affected by Hurricanes Gustav and Ike. Its 235,000 b/d Convent, La., refinery was making some blending components but is not yet able to make finished gasoline and other products. Shell’s chemical plant in Mobile was operating normally. Its chemical plant in Geismar, La., was still in start up sequence and supplying limited product from existing inventory.


13 posted on 09/17/2008 1:24:58 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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From the Hurricane thread:

Hurricane Ike Live Thread IV

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:08:53 PM · 3,453 of 3,469
AFPhys to AFPhys; NautiNurse

Start here: http://www.oe.energy.gov/news_room_and_events/events.htm

From there I eventually get to this report of today’s situation:
Situation Report for September 17, 2008, 10AM
http://www.oe.netl.doe.gov/docs/2008_SitRep_7_Ike_091708_10AM.pdf

My approximate summary (& diff from y’day) is:
- 1.9 (-.3M) Million “customers” (not people) are dark now in TX, 0.8M (-.2M)in OH, 0.3M (-.2M) LA & AR & KY
- Oil/gas starting to come back online slowly, but much is still off line. About 60% of the platforms operating in the area remain evacuated.
- It appears that about 30 of the 3,800 offshore production platforms were destroyed.
- Natural gas pipelines seem to be OK. No major infrastructure damage reported. Slowly coming back up. Need for electric. Some repairs. Not much difference there, it seems.
- A little under 90% of gas/oil wells in the GOM are not producing due to preemptive shutdowns- slowly recovering.
- Nat Gas Damage assessments under way. Flooding. Lack of power. Some may take several weeks to cleanup & repair.
- Minor damage to some off-shore facilities. Too early for detailed repair estimates, but probably not more than a few weeks.

The largest affected distribution company, CenterPoint, reports has gone from 3/4 down to about 2/3 of their customers dark. Facilities still out of service include 21 (was 90 y’day) transmission facilities, 936 (was 1348) distribution circuits. It sounds like they are doing a great job of getting this done, but of course the stuff remaining will be increasingly difficult. They haven’t changed their estimates of time it will take.

Someone specifically asked about Entergy yesterday. It is only about 1/4 the size of CenterPoint, and MUCH harder hit. Almost 85% of their customers are dark, and my glance indicates their facilities seem to be really devastated compared to CenterPoint’s. Though they are much smaller, they report having even more people working there. Still, they’re expecting about the same recovery time, and there is a list of areas and times in the report.

On balance, world wide investors are looking at Ike as a non-event for anything other than short-term production of Oil/Gas since prices are down substantially over the last couple days. Distribution situations will cause price action in local areas. In my area, gasoline is up only $0.04, so it’s been a nothing.

[IF you look at the pdf above, I caution you that the 90%+ of oil facilities out is meaningless as far as anything having to do with damage. That simply means certain facilities are not producing as of this report.]

[This is linked to the previous summary I made]


14 posted on 09/17/2008 1:32:23 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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Gee, here's a thought, if I had a gasoline maker on the shore that got put under water every year I make it waterproof to begin with.

It's got to be cheaper than put it all back together every year.

But, hey what do I know, I'm only an investment banker.

15 posted on 09/17/2008 3:07:03 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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got put under water every year

There is not a refinery in the US with that description. Once every couple decades maybe for a couple of them.

16 posted on 09/17/2008 3:16:37 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Even so, we should spread them (refineries) around the country. I don’t know why they haven’t utilized de-commissioned and empty military bases for those. I believe they are under federal control. Could George Bush do it with an executive order? Flick of the pen; law of the land?


17 posted on 09/18/2008 3:24:47 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Refineries require a source of crude oil and refined product pipelines for the many different materials produced from the crude oil. They need to be located near industrial facilities that use their products besides just gasoline and diesel.


18 posted on 09/18/2008 6:38:03 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: AFPhys
There are a total of 49 out of 3900 platforms damaged by Ike.

I believe I saw this on Fox News.

Also, there was damage to about 5 pipelines (in the Gulf of Mexico).

Pipeline damage is key as even if you can produce oil/natural gas, there is no way to move it onshore without the pipelines.

Word was that older platforms in shallow water were lost (platforms built in 1970s and 1980s). These are easy to replace...

19 posted on 09/19/2008 5:45:44 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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Gas down from 4.15 last weekend to 3.80s here in Indiana.
I expect it to go close to 3.00 by Nov.


20 posted on 09/19/2008 5:49:56 AM PDT by nascarnation
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