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1 posted on 09/09/2008 6:43:30 PM PDT by flyfree
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I consider her to be the lipstick and him the pig.


2 posted on 09/09/2008 6:44:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: flyfree
Urban dictionary definition here (the guy is toast)....
3 posted on 09/09/2008 6:46:00 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: flyfree
Victor, Victor, Victor... we love you but its too late to pontificate about "carelessness." That was deliberately meant and an insult is NOT a gaffe!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 09/09/2008 6:46:38 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: flyfree

Not to be crass, but I took the fish comment to be meant toward Palin. I could be wrong but that wouldn’t be the first time that men use that word against women.


5 posted on 09/09/2008 6:46:51 PM PDT by Gypssy (Smart, Womanly & Conversative! :-)~~~)
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To: flyfree
"You can put lipstick on a pig. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

SO MUCH NUANCE!!

When it comes to the ugly 'gutter' POLITICS OF PERSONAL DESTRUCTION,,,,Chicago politicians don't take a back seat to anyone!

7 posted on 09/09/2008 6:47:32 PM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN--a ticket with 2 northern liberal lawyer career bureaucrats/s)
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To: flyfree

Context matters. Seems pretty clear that Obama was slamming each of them in turn. Plus, the crowd seemed to have little doubt about what he meant. I hope this breaks through the MSM wall of silence.


8 posted on 09/09/2008 6:48:28 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: flyfree

Well...


9 posted on 09/09/2008 6:50:18 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Barack Obama has "Jumped the Pig".)
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To: flyfree

I think you are right...


10 posted on 09/09/2008 6:50:34 PM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: flyfree
So in that sense he appears both to insult the 72-year old McCain as the "old fish" that is still going to "stink", and to refer to Palin, who had famously evoked the metaphor of lipstick in a nationally televised address, as still the pig despite the lipstick. The fact that he used two metaphors to attack the two, and used expressions referring both to age and Palin's recent use of "lipstick" don't seem to be accidents and that's why the cooing crowd got the old fish=McCain;lipsticked pig=Palin immediately.

The crowd "got it". It's too bad that the media isn't playing the entire clip. Even Hannity didn't do it. But when the entire line is played it's crystal clear that it's a jab at Palin and McCain.

11 posted on 09/09/2008 6:50:37 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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So I take it that the kid gloves are off now? All’s fair and all that? I hope so.

Obama is a Muslim....naanananananana


12 posted on 09/09/2008 6:50:46 PM PDT by madison10 (Pray for McCains, Palins and the USA...and the rest of us, too.)
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Muslims routinely call Christians “pigs” so Obamadon during Ramadan calls Christians pigs


14 posted on 09/09/2008 6:51:28 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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Dear Victor:

Stinky Fish is a reference to female genitals. Women who stick because of ovulations.

(see also some men chase older women, “they don’t complain, don’t stink, and are grateful.”)

Obama is obsessed with the conservative coalescence due to palin. Palin is proping up mccain.

Stinky Fish is an attack on women.

(respecfully)


15 posted on 09/09/2008 6:51:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I interpreted it as you did. It appeared that the Senator was forming his own thoughts at the time and not speaking from a script. I think that’s when he gets in trouble.


16 posted on 09/09/2008 6:52:08 PM PDT by Faith
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I’m almost more offended at the thought of insulting a war hero as a stinky old fish.

If this thing gets legs of its own, Obama is done. If it doesn’t, he’ll screw up again, worse, somewhere down the line. Either way, we need to just sit back and watch the show.


20 posted on 09/09/2008 6:53:56 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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Good point and what McCain said earlier:

“McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton’s health-care plan, he said it was “eerily reminiscent” of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the early 1990s.

“I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,” he said of her proposal.”

Was clearly talking of the proposal, Obama is pretty blatantly speaking of McCain and Palin and their Reforms...

Obama should not sleaze out of this one, we should not let him.


23 posted on 09/09/2008 6:57:14 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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I interpreted it as you did.

Sorry. I meant to say that I interpreted the comment as the author did.

24 posted on 09/09/2008 6:57:20 PM PDT by Faith
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To: flyfree

I thought the fish remark was a sort of code (referring to Palin’s husband) to let the audience know he knew they knew what the pig remark was aimed at.

Perhaps I credit him/them with too much subtlety !


25 posted on 09/09/2008 6:57:23 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: flyfree

Obama’s cult loonies no doubt got it.


26 posted on 09/09/2008 6:57:36 PM PDT by popdonnelly (I'll tell you a little secret: We're smarter and more competent than the Left.)
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To: flyfree

Obama is back to kindergarten. Sarah’s lipstick joke was not thrown toward Obama. I hope we don’t get sucked into responding in kind. Sarah’s and Rudy’s criticisms drew blood because they were true and because they were substantive in nature. Getting sucked into name calling would be counter-productive as we have such advantages on the issues!

Even OPEC now wants to reduce the price of oil. They got scared about McCain’s and Palin’s agenda of increasing our oil independence, and OPEC wants to reduce the price to a level that prevents some of the business cases from making sense. OPEC has played that game for years. We need a national will to get ourselves weaned from these jerks once and for all.


28 posted on 09/09/2008 6:59:21 PM PDT by winner3000
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The fact that he said “OLD fish” gave me the immediate impression that the twerp was referring to McCain.


29 posted on 09/09/2008 6:59:27 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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