Posted on 09/07/2008 8:33:37 PM PDT by Zakeet
Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic nominee for vice president, departed Sunday from party doctrine on abortion rights, declaring that as a Catholic, he believes life begins at conception.
While Mr. Biden’s views may not be new to Democrats in his circle, his comments, in an interview on “Meet the Press” on NBC, came at a time when his party is confronted with a new face: Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, whose anti-abortion stance and decision to give birth just five months ago to a baby with Down syndrome have revved up the conservative base of her party.
In the interview Sunday, Mr. Biden tried to walk the line between the staunch abortion-rights advocates in his party and his own religious beliefs. While he said he did not often talk about his faith, he said of those who disagree with him: “They believe in their faith and they believe in human life, and they have differing views as to when life — I’m prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.”
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yes, the real losers are the liberal feminists who would have wanted to use abortion as a wedge issue to turn women away from palin.
I'm sure the demons will want to hear all about it while you roast with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pot and the Prophets of Baal, Asheroth and Molech in the lowest and hottest ring of hell. Nobody is more responsible for abortion holocaust since 1987 than Joe Biden, the Chairman of the Senate Judicial Committee. May God have mercy on your rotten soul Smarmy Joe!
I'm sure the demons will want to hear all about it while you roast with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pot and the Prophets of Baal, Asheroth and Molech in the lowest and hottest ring of hell. Nobody is more responsible for abortion holocaust since 1987 than Joe Biden, the Chairman of the Senate Judicial Committee. May God have mercy on your rotten soul Smarmy Joe!
Yes, it takes guts to come out on national television and tell everyone the world is flat. Some might call it a sign of disconnect from reality, but it's still gutsy.
I also find it gutsy to jump into a shark tank with some red meat strapped to my body, but I don't think anyone would give me the credit of having my head screwed on straight.
If Joe Biden's honest opinion is that life begins at conception, but will not use his vote to protect that innocent life, then he's one of the great cowards of Western Civilization. He deserves no credit, whatsoever.
[OPEN] Joe Biden and the Bishops
Biden follows Pelosi in mangling Catholic doctrine on abortion
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden (says Mr. Biden should avoid taking Communion)
Bishops: Democratic VP Nominee Should Refrain from Communion
Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden
Denver Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden
Catholic Bishop: Pro-Abortion VP Candidate Joe Biden Should Skip Communion
Catholic leaders react to Biden pick; Bishops say he should refrain from Communion
Catholics Against Joe Biden (Link to site) [Open]
Choice of Biden Re-Opens Catholic Wound; Own Bishop Outspoken on Obligation to Protect Life
Biden's Catholic faith offers risks, rewards
The "Abortion Joe" Biden will get his ticket a record low Catholic vote
Joe Biden Makes It Easier for Catholics to Oppose Pro-Abortion Barack Obama
You lying schmuck! How many millions of slaughtered unborn babies have you imposed your views on since 1987?
The dialogue I posted is imaginary, but he definitely uttered that line at one point during the conversation on abortion.
McCain-Palin really has the cockroaches scattering. First, 0bama says the surge was a success and then implies he would have joined the military if the Vietnam War had still been going on. And now Biden, in effect, mocks 0bama’s “above-my-pay-grade” snark by saying life begins at conception. Pretty soon both 0bama and Biden will say, “aw, hell, McCain was right about everything, but you still ought to vote for us because we’re the ones we’ve been waiting for.”
“As a Matter of Faith, Biden Says Life Begins at Conception”
As a matter of expediency, Biden says it’s just fine if someone chooses to destroy that life.
**My respect for Biden has increased tremendously today.**
I hope you will rethink your statement when you view the links in the following post. Biden wasn’t telling the truth today.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2077066/posts?page=45#45
B.S. his party does not care one iota when life begins as long as murdering it remains legal. He hasn't departed from anything. I hope Palin Borks his ass into the permafrost.
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Abortion and Euthanasia |
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| Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE) | Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen." |
Let's apply that to the war on terror and beliefs of radical Islamists who firmly and sincerely believe that Americans should be dead.
After what happened to Pelosi a week or two ago, after she butchered Catholic teaching on Meet the Press, Biden knew he had better not follow suit.
Biden will no doubt take refuge in the old “two truths” theory—a favorite sophistry of Mario Cuomo, Geraldine Ferraro, et al. “Life begins at conception” is something they “believe” because it’s “taught by the Catholic Church.” But “life begins at conception” is utterly unknowable by any other means, and everyone is entitled to believe anything at all about it.
The pro-abortion press calls themselves "pro-choice" but won't refer to the opposite side as "pro-life."
It all depends on what “believe” means. In Biden’s world, to “believe” something means it is completely private and without any consequences. So, he “believes” life begins at conception, just as a sort of password one must repeat in order to receive Communion, or get the votes of “Catholics.” It DOESN’T mean that babies have any REAL rights.
Oh man, not the “I don’t want to impose my personal views on other people” riff.
That’s like saying I am personally opposed to slavery or murder but I don’t want to impose my views on others. In other words, he doesn’t believe it. If he does believe life begins at conception then how can he justify supporting the snuffing out of another life.
Again, if he believes life begins at conception, then he must believe that abortion is murder. If he believes that abortion is murder, then his action prove that he believes the right to privacy (whatever that is), is more important to protect than the life of an innocent victim of murder.
If that’s the case, he would then logically believe that it’s okay to murder anyone, as long as its done in private. In fact, it’s an even less atrocious crime because the victim usually has a chance to defend themselves.
Once they say, “I believe... however...” the game is over and they go back to the bench. You can’t “believe” and then be 1% of the voting Senate, and then plead that your opinion doesn’t matter to the public while casting a vote that goes against what you believe. It’s utter madness.
Thanks for the links. It nails it down nicely.
Obama complained that pro-life advocates wanted children born alive in botched "live borth" abortions treated the same as if they were a "nine-month-old" child. Well, they are. That's common sense not some obscure theological mystery which people can have different opinions about.
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