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To: Alia
there exists a hard core survivalist instinct yet very much alive throughout America

I agree, it is there, but it takes a direct threat, like a 9-11 attack, to bring it out, and it is not as strong as it was in WW2. Perceived threats in exotic places like Georgia, Iran and Waziristan will not get Americans very worked up for war at this moment in time. After the cold war was over, we all breathed a sigh of relief and figured it was done. Gearing back up for an unending board game against a stalwart foe would require a mental commitment to a different world view and to a long struggle, and I don't think we are readyfor it yet. It will take more than Georgia to get us there.

about having left and right, and all the freedom to voice in-between is that the spirit of "fight" remains a vital part of our country psyche

I strongly disagree. The left has been a dispiriting movement that has weakened the US considerably. If we didn't have great reserves of old-fashioned American spirit, we would have crumbled into a socialist and very weak country decades ago. Our churches, our families, our community organizations and the heritage of centuries of freedom have kept the worst part of the left from taking hold. But they gain more with every generation, and with their control of education, bureaucracies, the judiciary, the media, it will continue to gain until we would be the nation that Obama wants us to be--weak, humble, contrite, submissive and inactive on the world stage.

The left needs to be defeated and eliminated for America to maintain its status as the greatest nation, and for our culture to survive. The left tries to destroy our culture. Classic American political battles, between federalist and Anti-Federalist, between Whig and Democrat, between Republican and Democrat, were between two different visions of America that were entirely American. The political struggle between leftism and conservatism is one in which the left seeks to impose an Anti-American, authoritarian, utopian, and foreign, system upon the US. To gain its way, it must remove American's attachment to the old American, and to do that, it tears us down at every chance it gets.

It is not a healthy part of our politics, it is a disease that weakens us.

142 posted on 08/19/2008 9:16:59 AM PDT by Defiant (The Obamessiah creed: There was a pedophile named Mohammed, and Obama is his messenger.)
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To: Defiant
Very strong and excellent post. Of course, you are right. We are nowhere near the kind of mental focus to understand the dangers facing us, the moral clarity to know in our bones we are the superior culture, and the savage instinct for survival that must be present in the end if any culture is to survive.
But I know you know that in the 1930’s the left was also powerful in the nation and our country was confused as to our real national interest until Hitler started to play out his evil and even then it took Pearl Harbor. So I agree, not a comforting precedent.
145 posted on 08/19/2008 9:31:15 AM PDT by mick
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To: Defiant
No kicks from me about yours on American Socialists and socialism. What I was talking about, in context, was something else.

Now, of course, if that "energy" could have been harnessed and directed properly in re Afghanistan/Iraq, and now GA -- winning the war would not have been allowed to be so protracted. The left used its energy to hamper positive gains and goals in re Iraq/Afghanistan.

My point was: There's hardly anyone in American who isn't kickin' about something. Whether that be right or left, or even in the moderate "climes".

162 posted on 08/19/2008 1:48:22 PM PDT by Alia
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