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Livethread - Obama, McCain, and Rick Warren

Posted on 08/16/2008 4:57:08 PM PDT by UFC Pride K1

Share your thoughts about the Saddleback Civil Forum, which starts at 8:00pm EST..

Will Warren throw softballs on the issue of abortion?

Will he give both candidates free passes?

Will this be an attempt to minimize the lives of the unborn while giving higher priority of less urgent social issues?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: ca2008; christianvote; electionpresident; mccain; obama; prolife; rickwarren; saddleback; warren
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Obama, McCain, and Rick Warren - softball questions and easy passes?

1 posted on 08/16/2008 4:57:08 PM PDT by UFC Pride K1
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To: UFC Pride K1

I wonder if Obama got the questions beforehand? I guess we will find out


2 posted on 08/16/2008 4:59:31 PM PDT by Kaslin (Vote Democrat if you like high gas prices at the pump)
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To: UFC Pride K1

Anyone know if this will be streamed online anywhere? I don’t have cable an am unable to watch it. Thanks.


3 posted on 08/16/2008 4:59:33 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: UFC Pride K1

Oh good, Bill Sammon with be one of the pundits for FOX.


6 posted on 08/16/2008 5:02:12 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Pinkbell

From google, “To view this live streaming video you will need the Flash Plugin. ... In 1980, Warren and his wife Kay founded Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, CA. ...
saddlebackcivilforum.com/”

I tried it, won’t load, probably getting hammered.


7 posted on 08/16/2008 5:03:01 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Black dogs and bacon bombs.)
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To: UFC Pride K1

They will use the interview format with the candidates. Identical questions will be asked. Obama will go first and McCain will not hear his answers.


8 posted on 08/16/2008 5:03:41 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Pinkbell

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&record=566994576


9 posted on 08/16/2008 5:03:47 PM PDT by anglian
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To: UFC Pride K1

Good line: “We believe in the separation of church and state, but not the separation of faith in politics.”


10 posted on 08/16/2008 5:04:12 PM PDT by United Freeping States (I'm all for libertarian principles until they start, you know, getting us killed.)
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To: BlueAngel

Political 21/


11 posted on 08/16/2008 5:04:25 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: UFC Pride K1

Liberals are demons. No need to “demonize” them.


12 posted on 08/16/2008 5:04:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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To: Rebelbase
> I tried it, won’t load, probably getting hammered.

I'm not sure that getting hammered will help you improve the reception. ;-)

yeah, the site is seriously slashdotted.

13 posted on 08/16/2008 5:05:17 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: UFC Pride K1

The more I see him the more arrogant a bastard he seems.


14 posted on 08/16/2008 5:06:05 PM PDT by Porterville (Forgive my grammar, it sucks and I ain't doing a damn thing to correct it.)
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To: UFC Pride K1

McCain is such an idiot to take part in this Obama love-fest. Rick Warren is a total phony who has been saying nice things about Obama for months. McCain appearing here only serves to elevate interest in Obama’s so-called “Christian faith”. This can only help Obama.


15 posted on 08/16/2008 5:06:57 PM PDT by montag813
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To: REDWOOD99

First topic for Obama is “leadership”. Who are the wisest 3 people in your life and who will you rely on in your administration?

1. Michelle his wife, wise/honest. Someone who can get up in my face and say “boy you screwed that one up”

2. Grandmother, never went to college, worked on bomber line during WWII, secretary,

Not restrict himself th 3 people in his administration, sam nunn dick lugar/forign policy/ Teddy K and tom Colburn for domestic. Needs a table where lots of views are present, needs to ask lots of Questions.


16 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:50 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Black dogs and bacon bombs.)
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I guarantee you Obama will not get a question about why he as an Illinois state senator voted three times in favor of infanticide.

I’m equally sure he won’t be asked about his use of heavy drugs in college and his advocacy of legalizing marijuana when he ran for the U.S. Senate in 2004.

I honestly believe this “forum” is more about Rick Warren trying to seek attention for himself. He’s not exactly a “humble man of God.”


17 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:51 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 (Thankkfully Converted Catholic)
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To: UFC Pride K1

Obama punts the first question


18 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:12 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: BlueAngel

First question has to do with leadership.

He asks Obama who are the wisest people he knows.

Obama answers that his wife is wise and also honest. Of course. And his grandmother who is extraordinary person and is very common sense person. Mentions Sam Nunn, Dick Lugar. Wants alot of different points of view.


19 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:14 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: UFC Pride K1
My guess is that Rick Warren will most likely slip in some variant of the classic "If you suddenly died and found yourself standing before God, What reason would you give him to ask to be let into heaven?"

I don't expect him to be anymore politically savvy than many other pastors who's careers have focused on rescue missions. Approximately two thirds of the lay leadership comes from their twelves step program, which works with addicts, drunkards, prostitutes, rape and incest victims, people with eating disorders, etc.

And they have done it for decades sans government money.

To expect that these people will also all be politically astute is a bit farcical.

20 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:15 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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