Ex-Astronaut: Aliens Are Real and NASA Knows It

Your assumptions are showing.

I read and report a lot of things.

I put most things on the shelf and wait to see what’s confirmed.

Who knows if that’s true. It’s plausible enough. I wasn’t there.

If it does can we kill it? Please?

Thanks.

I have you down, then, as an emphatic skeptic.

WOW.

that’s a tanker full of denial, imho.

I have you down as an emphatic skeptic.

I have you down then as an emphatic skeptic.

Because scientists

have as much ease being blooming idiots as a lot of other people.

If there are any bacteria on Mars, we put them there with our unmanned probes.

= = =

WOW.

That’s a LOT OF FAITH

given so many unknowns . . .

Oh, right, personal omniscience competing with God’s?

WOW. That’s a LOT OF FAITH given so many unknowns . . . Oh, right, personal omniscience competing with God’s?

It's merely an opinion derived from the facts at hand.

Oh, and that “emphatic skeptic” list must be getting quite long. Does it still fit on one CD?

Ahhhhhh

that’s why it was stated as though it were absolute truth, right?

Actually, it’s several orders of magnitude smaller than the UFO ping list.

Are you aware that more than 80% of the general population believes UFO’s are real and come from elsewhere than this planet?

I have you down as an emphatic skeptic.

Quite so. Aliens visiting Earth, telepathy, ghosts, demons, magic, leprechauns, the Loch Ness Monster...either these things are real or they're so much hokum.

I vote for the latter.

Ahhhhhh that’s why it was stated as though it were absolute truth, right?

I'll say it is likely the truth then. Happy now? Taking all the evidence at hand, there are endless speculations possible, but only one likely conclusion. It is the absolute truth however, that there is no evidence of life beyond Earth.

is that when UFOs are investigated they invariably turn out to be either fakes or misinterpretations. = = = BOY IS THAT THOROUGHLY UNTRUE! Are you a paid government shill? That is incredibly off the wall wrong. Here's my notes from the Timothy Good presentation at the March 2008 UFO Symposium: NOTES ON TIMOTHY GOOD’S AZTEC 2008 SYMPOSIUM PRESENTATION A note regarding my notes: I tend to take rather accurate notes. I paraphrase a fair amount for brevity but often have many, if not most key phrases, verbatim. However, I don’t distinguish with punctuation which phrases are verbatim and which are paraphrased. That would entail more bother than I care to engage in at such conferences. [My own comments will be in brackets, like this] TIMOTHY GOOD: [Timothy Good was, as ever, the perfect British gentleman in every respect--though he was suffering from a cold or some such. He soldiered on valliantly, good naturedly, charitably. And, of course, sold no small number of books! LOL] 1933 ITALY UFO investigation . . . FOOFIGHTERS 500 MPH 1942 and consisted [on at least some occasions] of a large SOLID object. Radar operator reporte a disc on edge 1944 . . . maybe 8-12 times the size of a Lancaster bomber. The entire crew of the Lancaster bomber were OVERTAKEN by a feeling of peace when the craft was close to them. Discs brought down V2 rockets. Andy Kisner started firing [his guns on his plane] at the UFO’s with proximity fused ordinances–including, the Roswell craft. [not that Andy fired at the Roswell craft--but maybe he did. That wasn't clear. But Andy at least was early on in such actions and there are evidently convincing reports--if I understood correctly--that someone fired at the Roswell craft with proximity fuses.] Aliens began to retaliate including airlines in [at least] 180 cases. [he showed a copy of a San Francisco newspaper article about:] “Military planes hunting Sky Disks” Plane that took off to protect debris of crashed discs at Roswell–was forcefully flung to the ground shortly after take-off. A woman [pic and name provided in presentation] searched all over Roswell at the time–for ice for a big extended family picnic. She could find none. Everywhere she went, they told her the Air Force had taken it all. [Lends support to the reports of the alien bodies being put on ice.] Werner von Braun asserted that the aliens had frail skin–almost like rattlesnake skin. That the craft was spare of equipment–that seemingly the aliens and the craft were one united functioning unit. Retiring JPL Director at retirement party took a few friends to a sealed vault. Inside were materials they’d analyzed [from the Roswell craft--I think]–including some skeletal bones. [drawing included in presentation and in his latest book] 1977 Biophysicist–they had problems breathing our atmosphere–nitrogen is no good for them. 1944 . . . [items, behaviors?] whih cannot be attributed to any earth based civilization. Gen Vandenberg ordered [someone] to destroy all copies of the AIR INTEL reports [having anything to do with UFO's] Debunkers worked to assault particularly the highly qualified observers [quite beyond others]. 100′ disc humming & crckling, hissing sounds and some flickering fingers of blue light . . . Pilot was accused of mistaking a standard aircraft for a UFO [when such an accusation was ludicrous]. The head of the Air Force Intel Cabel blew his top at all the BS. He said “I’ve been lied to and lied to and lied to and lied to and lied to and lied to and I want the answers to the saucers . . . ” [he evidently didn't get answers.] USOs==submerged craft . . . Navy has had very significant info for longer than the Air Force. [Article in newspaper--forget which one] “Saucer Outran Jet, Pilot reveals” 1952 Stats from US Defense . . . 1952-1956 . . . accidents–several thousands 9./5% or 1773 acidents in this period were due to ‘unknowns’ [i.e. UFO's] Pilot: “I got to 350 feet from the UFO when my cockpit was bathed in a blue light. I could [suddenly] see through my glove & flesh to the bones of my hand.” An extraordinary # of disappearances under 1,000 feet. Had to eject. [In this particular case] the pilot ejected because the radar observer was having trouble doing so. The plane and radar observer were NEVER FOUND [AT ALL, NOT A SHRED.] The UFO was over an airbase. Sir Peter Bosley 1954 2 hour meeting with an alien arranged by a general. Alien could read his mind and knew all Britain’s nuclear secrets. Fred Durant . . . CIA office of Intel . . . UFO’s . . . CIA had ordered Air Force to debunk UFO . . . Later, all he would say . . . sent Timothy an email “NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER GIVE UP.” B36H bomber–for 5-8 min approached by the 100′ disc . . .35mm films . . . along the rim, multicolored lights. Aircraft carrier with 3,000 witnesses on top of 5 ships . . . cigar shaped craft . . . 4,000 feet long and over 300 feet in diameter . . . radar screen whited out . . . Gordon Cooper [astronaut] intercepted sevral UFO’s in Europe & also confirmed that a craft landed at Edwards. [someone?who?] approached within 50′ of the 50′ diameter craft. — JFK via White House staff 1961-1962 requested viewing alien bodies . . . [showed pic of Airforce 1 plane that took him to do so] Godfry. . . . to Tindel AFB Fla where he viewed the bodies . . . Showed a pic with DC4 airliner, it’s shadow on the ground with a craft and the craft’s shadow on the ground. [I think in South America somewhere.] May 1998 National Defense Airborne Recon off [Israel?] General Israel & 15 people . . . asked to address the group said photos looked real to him. — 1967 b52 right seated pilot . . . Minot ND, large object landed on thebase near bunkers where [nuclear?] weapons kept. Buz Aldrin said UFO’s paced Apollo 11. . . . he looked at craft through cabin telescope–was a [typical] bell shaped craft. — Carrier JFK huge object caused massive comm failures . . . per Jim Kompf — Manzano Mountains [near Albuquerque] # of alien bases around the world–at least one such near where nukes are stored in Manzano Mountains . . . extraordinary UFO events east side of Manzano — RC Hecker 22:10 electronic scanners registered burst of energy . . . Chilile metalic 60′ diameter quietly moved to Kirtland AFB 1977 French & British nuke bombers–encountered giant objects 1977 — Andropov ordered 4 milion soldiers to do a UFO study — China–many events–PhD’s only allowed to join the organization–40 scientific papers–huge object over AFB 1978 - - - Bob Wood attended Top Secret UFO Working Group 1985 . . . Joint Conference Room “THE TANK” [White House or Pentegon] - - - Hal Putoff TOP SECRET UMBRA Clearance . . . Craft landed atUSSR base & destroyed Radar with a beam of light which wet through a soldier without detroying him. — A kilometer long abject silence–a “zone of silence” accompanied it. — Counselor to Senate Appropriateions Committee . . . Carl Flog sp? . . . [saw info evidence] — Brazilian case . . . several critters . . . Dr Roger Lear interviewed surgeon who autopsied them. - — Sunday Times article: British Journalist saw a chevron object–tried to call flight attendant but was SUDDENLY & VIOLENTLY flung to the ground [just before bordering a plane] in view of everyone else. — 1998 China pilot had object in sights. Was refused permission to fire. — 2004 in a landing pattern at Dublin Airport–large triangle object–164 degree centegrade wing damaged on plane by the UFO. Plane made an emergency landing. 2 hours later, another similar incident [I think at the same airport]. 2005 Paul Hellyer . . . [don't recall point] Maybe said: “I don’t know” to Timothy’s query. There has been a liason program since 1940’s with aliens. Definitely was a meeting at NUROC. Art Campbell [knows there was or saw] a meeting at Holloman AFB with Ike in 1955. END OF MY TIMOTHY GOOD NOTES.

Are you aware that more than 80% of the general population believes UFO’s are real and come from elsewhere than this planet?

Then 80% of the general population is wrong. Reality is not a democratic institution.

Repeat after me: paragraphs are my friend, not my enemy!

Are you aware that more than 80% of the general population believes UFO’s are real and come from elsewhere than this planet?

Many people (to my amazement) still believe in ghosts. Doesn't make them real.

That would be correct...

Who cares what 80 percent of the general population believes, concerning UFO’s....that comes from nothing but an opinion poll...big whoop...that has absolutely nothing to do with reality, or the truth....opinions do not equal proof...