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McCain: Guantanamo Ruling One of the ‘Worst Decisions’ in History
Fox News ^ | June 13, 2008 | Foxnews.com

Posted on 06/13/2008 12:09:36 PM PDT by DCRoush

John McCain said Friday that the Supreme Court ruling on Guantanamo Bay detainees is “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.” The presumptive GOP nominee said the decision, a 5-4 ruling Thursday that determined Guantanamo detainees have the right to seek release in civilian courts, would lead to a wave of frivolous challenges. “We are now going to have the courts flooded with so-called … habeas corpus suits against the government, whether it be about the diet, whether it be about the reading material. And we are going to be bollixed up in a way that is terribly unfortunate because we need to go ahead and adjudicate these cases,” he said at a town hall meeting in New Jersey. McCain said he has worked hard to ensure the U.S. military does not torture prisoners but that the detainees at Guantanamo are still “enemy combatants.” “These are people who are not citizens. They do not and never have been given the rights that citizens in this country have,” he said. “Now, my friends, there are some bad people down there. There are some bad people.” Barack Obama released a statement Thursday saying the Supreme Court decision “ensures that we can protect our nation and bring terrorists to justice while also protecting our core values.” “The Court’s decision is a rejection of the Bush administration’s attempt to create a legal black hole at Guantanamo - yet another failed policy supported by John McCain,” he said. “This is an important step toward re-establishing our credibility as a nation committed to the rule of law and rejecting a false choice between fighting terrorism and respecting habeas corpus.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: fightinJAG

“Do you think Obambi will support judges who are not liberal?”

No - but that doesnt mean McCain will support conservative judges. Judge a man by his record not what he says. McCain is a liberal through and through. When the evil, senile Ruth Bader Ginsberg (former ACLU pres) was being confirmed what did McCain say about her? Answer: Not a damn thing. Sad commentary, when liberals like Schumer and Kennedy tear apart outstanding judges like Roberts, Alito, Scalila, Thomas.

I am past worrying about what Obama might do, yeah I know it will be bad, but my guess is that it will be alot better than the POS napolean known as McCain.


81 posted on 06/13/2008 1:54:50 PM PDT by sasafras (Obama is stupid, an idiot and confused, McCain is EVIL!!!!)
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To: Crazieman
"I swear, FR is crawling with McLame-supporting DU trolls."

I read your post and I think I am reading an Obama supporter. Funny how that is.

82 posted on 06/13/2008 1:55:00 PM PDT by avacado
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To: firebrand

Your wise analysis will not be wasted on *everyone.*


83 posted on 06/13/2008 1:55:16 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: tiki
Why don’t we just not capture them, if you get my meaning.

I do and agree.

84 posted on 06/13/2008 1:55:24 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: avacado

2 years ago, especially in one particularly long JimRob thread about McCain’s attack on internet free speech, support of McCain was inferred to as being a closet DU member.


85 posted on 06/13/2008 1:56:55 PM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: avacado

I take it you’re a Mcpain supporter?


86 posted on 06/13/2008 1:57:10 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: RJL

Oh, please. If George Bush hadn’t had two vacancies to fill, this result in this case would not have been 5-4 and the ruling would have been 1000% worse.

This case had nothing to do with McCain’s view that Gitmo should be closed. In fact, the RATs (including those on the Court) don’t WANT Gitmo closed; they love using it for propaganda. Hello.


87 posted on 06/13/2008 1:57:22 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: Blue Turtle
This decision is NOT against the Bush Administration. It is against the United States of America, our troops, and law-abiding citizens. Scalia’s dissent is haunting and should wake us up.

Bingo!

88 posted on 06/13/2008 1:59:49 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: processing please hold
"I take it you’re a Mcpain supporter?

If that is all you got out of me trying to explain something very simple to you then I take it most subjects are above your head.

I am in the energy industry in Houston. Do you think I am a McCain supporter? Don't answer, you probably have no idea what I just said.

89 posted on 06/13/2008 2:02:04 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Crazieman

Remember when the liberals voted for Clinton no matter what he did? A lot of folks here swore they’d never do that.

Well, November’s a comin’, and they’re about to do something they swore they’d never do.

Well, not this guy. I won’t vote for a disgusting leftist jerk.


90 posted on 06/13/2008 2:02:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ooo what's that terrible smell? Oh, I stepped in a big pile of 'lesser of two evils'. Careful...)
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To: sasafras

Huh? BO is a loony with a messiah complex and a bunch of sub-minus followers who subscribe to a bizarre combination of Islam, Marxism, black separatism and environmentalism.

McCain is an elderly jerk who should never have run, and who like most old folks is on the liberal side of liberal. But he’s not going to install the First New Age Government of the Marxist Democracy (hah-hah) of the Country Formerly Known as the US - which Osama Obama will.


91 posted on 06/13/2008 2:03:10 PM PDT by livius
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To: DCRoush

We ought to release all the Gitmo detainees into the custody of Breyer, Kennedy, Ginsburg, Souter and Stevens. At least then we’ll get some new Supreme Court Justices, pronto!


92 posted on 06/13/2008 2:03:22 PM PDT by Gritty (Fighting the jihad in the courtroom means youÂ’ll lose - Mark Steyn)
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To: DCRoush
Free clue for Obama (and the 5 lefties on SCOTUS):

War is not crime.

An act of war is not a criminal act.

Warriors and terrorists at war with the USA are not criminals.

War is prosecuted on the battlefield; crime is prosecuted in courts of law. There's a big difference. You should learn it.

If you can't tell the difference between crime and war, then you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the White House.

93 posted on 06/13/2008 2:06:19 PM PDT by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesnÂ’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: DoughtyOne
I’ve seen those. Some of them were made by leftists (I think), but it’s quite clear.

The source website has tons and tons of video on lots of people and many of them are cartooned up with a liberal slant. But a video that is comprised of nothing more than clips of the man speaking can't be slanted much. McCain's double talk speaks for itself.

He certainly does milk an issue until even toddlers are mouthing the words when his face comes on the tube. "Tough times, tough times, my friend." He also seems to be even less squeamish than the Clintons to deny he said what is right on the tape.

94 posted on 06/13/2008 2:13:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: livius

“But he’s not going to install the First New Age Government of the Marxist Democracy (hah-hah) of the Country Formerly Known as the US - which Osama Obama will.”

Perhaps - but wait until you hear him address the national council of hispanic hitlers known as LaRaza before you make any judgments on what he will or wont do. Its coming up.

Also conservatives in congress will be singled out and destroyed one by one - McCain absolutely hates conservatives - McCain will work with the press and the rats to belittle and conservatives and conservatism. The GOP wont even be recognizable by the time he is done. The best chance for conservatives to fight the good fight, to stand our ground - if it means we lose then so be it - either way McCain is taking us to the same place as Obama.


95 posted on 06/13/2008 2:13:40 PM PDT by sasafras (Obama is stupid, an idiot and confused, McCain is EVIL!!!!)
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To: Puppage

Don’t bother, when dealing with McCain haters they will make it up on the run just to trash the guy. They never let the facts get in the way of a good McCain bash.


96 posted on 06/13/2008 2:15:47 PM PDT by lexusppd
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To: TigersEye
I agree. The problem is, it means nothing. Obama is the great Satan so Caligula is okay.
97 posted on 06/13/2008 2:16:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ooo what's that terrible smell? Oh, I stepped in a big pile of 'lesser of two evils'. Careful...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Can you show me where McCain was for relocating all of Gitmos prisoners to the Continental USA?


98 posted on 06/13/2008 2:16:56 PM PDT by lexusppd
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To: avacado

mcpain said on his first day as president he would shut down gitmo. Now just what time frame are you talking about. Obviously there would still be terrorist there, what’s he gonna do, turn ‘em loose or ship them to US soil?


99 posted on 06/13/2008 2:18:16 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: lexusppd
Here are some facts for you, sonny boy.

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100 posted on 06/13/2008 2:18:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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