Posted on 05/08/2008 5:54:21 AM PDT by MizSterious
"It's the plan that has to address the permanency," said Mary Walker, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services. "Whether or not children will be unified with their parents or whether or not they will remain in foster care."
Children and parents are being interviewed this week, and Texas Child Protective Services will make recommendations. A judge would ultimately sign off on the plans. Court hearings addressing the children's status in foster care are scheduled to begin May 19 in San Angelo, Texas.
"Some of our moms are working on plans of their own that they can propose to CPS," said Cynthia Martinez with the Texas Rio Grande Legal Aid Society, which represents some of the FLDS mothers.
The April raid was prompted by a phone call from someone claiming to be a 16-year-old "Sarah," who was pregnant and in an abusive relationship. When Texas CPS and law enforcement responded to the YFZ Ranch, they claim they found evidence of other abuse, including teenage mothers. That prompted a judge to order the removal of all the children at the FLDS compound.
The children have since been placed in foster care facilities across Texas. In contrast to the massive hearing Judge Barbara Walther held that placed the children in state custody, individual hearings will determine what happens to the children now.
In a typical service plan, there are recommendations and requirements that may need to be completed before a parent is reunited with their child.
"If, for example, we have a parent who has some substance abuse issues, the plan may be that the parent go into rehab," Walker said. "If you've got issues with neglect, making sure the child is properly cared for, we'd look at parenting classes, homemaking classes. The plan has to address whatever changes are necessary to reduce the level of risk."
Walker said she did not know what the service plans would address or recommend with the FLDS children and their parents. Texas CPS workers have claimed that the polygamist sect has a culture that lends itself to abuse, with girls being raised to become child brides.
The Texas child welfare system gives authorities up to a year to work with a family. If necessary, a judge can grant an extension. With 464 children in state protective custody, authorities concede that this case is not typical.
CPS said it is working with the Texas Education Agency to deal with the educational needs of the FLDS children.
Educational assessments will be conducted on each child and sent to the school district where the children have been placed. Texas' educational authority will recommend the assessment be used on all FLDS children.
"It is anticipated that the children will continue their education on the campus of their foster placement," CPS said in a statement. "There are no plans at this time for the children to attend classes on any public school campus."
The Texas Department of Family and Protective Services has released new numbers on the children.
According to the May 2 census, there are 102 infants up to 2 years old. An estimated 99 children are ages 3 to 5; 131 children are 6 to 9 years old; 62 children are 10 to 13; and 42 are 14 to 17.
Texas authorities said there are 26 young women who the FLDS claim are adults, but the state believes are children. Two young men turned 18 while in foster care but have elected to stay with family members at a shelter, CPS said.
Some of the foster care facilities the FLDS children are staying in have racked up violations.
The Deseret News conducted an online check of the inspection records and reports for the facilities the judge ordered the children to stay in. They are publicly accessible on the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services' Web site.
"Foster children are being spanked with a belt as a form of discipline," said one 2007 report for the Presbyterian Children's Homes & Services in Waxahachie, Texas.
"Foster child was made to stand on one foot in a closed closet as a form of discipline," said another report on the facility.
For most of the facilities, most of the 2007 violations were for mundane issues such as record keeping. The Kidz Harbor Home in Liverpool, Texas, was written up in February for two residents having sex at the facility. The Cal Farley's Boys Ranch in Amarillo was written up in February for not reporting a child's critical injury in a timely enough manner. It was also written up that same month for having a staff member becoming aware of a child's bruises, but failing to report it.
"You must report and document suspected abuse, neglect, or exploitation to child abuse hotline and the designated employee/administrator as soon as you become aware of it," the report said.
Online records show several facilities underwent a new round of assessments and inspections just before the FLDS children were placed in foster care.
“You are also ignorant of the laws of Texas and the Constitution.”
You think I am ‘ignorant’ because I was ‘smart’ enough to find a way to make you prove your claim that it was a Constitutional right?
Not at the time. Sometimes they don't find out until AFTER they investigate.
They investigated the call on the first warrant and did not remove any children then. They got they second warrant on the evidence of child abuse they observed when investigating the first warrant, spent several hours interviewing people there. They got the runaround and lied to so they finally decided to remove the kids until they straightened things out.
The cultists are the ones who did the lying. If they didn't like the outcome, they shouldn't have lied and played the CPS and LE for the fools. It backfired on them and they turned out to be the fools.
Typical cult apologist attitude, nothing the government is doing is good enough in this case. The government shouldn't have done anything without investigating thoroughly and gathering evidence beforehand, and now when they are gathering evidence they're accused of going on fishing expeditions.
J. W. Lown...a politician I can agree with...the flds is ‘a quasi—religious harem for a select few old men.’
G-d Bless Texas!
That ‘qoute’ is a line from a FLDS Sympathizer Website.
I had a link to it, but I can’t find it. If I do find it again, I will post it.
It is almost an ‘exact qoute’.
BING, BING, BING,.... RED FLAG!!!!!
Any REAL mother of that little boy would have said,"“Who is going to be holding my little three year old son?”"
That woman clearly admitted that that child was not her own.
Here’s one.
http://siriusknotts.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/the-texas-flds-kids-a-cps-fishing-expedition/
(Soliton: I am including you in the ping, because you are a part of the current ‘discussion’. So are the others. No one is out to ‘get you’, regardless to what you think)
The agency said results from the tests will take 30 to 50 days to process. If the tests take 50 days, the results will not be available until June 9, or four days after the 60-day custody hearings must be completed for the children.
The genetic testing was ordered late Friday at the conclusion of a two-day hearing by 51st District Judge Barbara Walther, who ruled that the state will keep temporary custody of the 437 children, counting 21 teens recently discovered to be minors. Walther also expects sect parents to participate in the DNA testing to help determine lineage.
Walther set a deadline of June 5 for completion of follow-up custody hearings, which she said will not be done en masse.
(WILL NOT BE DONE EN MASSE)
No details have yet been offered on how the court will divvy up the hearings.
In addition to recording basic information about each child, a photograph is being taken to go with the sample, she said.
That will help authorities match the samples to the children, whose identities are generally kept unclear by sect members.
Rolfe said that parents were ordered by the judge to get DNA testing, so anyone claiming to be a parent must be tested.
Because the attorney general’s office does not know how many parents will come forward, Rolfe said, the office cannot estimate how long adult sampling will take.
You don’t believe in evidence, at least you never offer any.”
By using the search facility, graciously provided by the owners of our website, one can look back at the comments of any particular poster, and find out for themselves whether something is true or not.
So, is what you said true?
Just as true as this: You don’t make personal attacks on other posters because you don’t like the way they answer your questions.
They knew before the raid that Barlowe hadn't been in Texas for 20 years. (they have dropped his warrant).
So, it is as I said. Just fraud.
I proved it. You ignored it.
And I don’t want you to think I don’t like you, or am biased.
In my experience, you do not behave like that on threads based on other subjects.
It seems to be limited to this case, this subject.
In your own words: “You obviously have an agenda. What is it?”
And I believe they are following the law in going after those breaking the law.
And I believe the women and children are undergoing hardship due to being removed from the environment they felt comfortable in, or had no reason to question.
I think most of the men are undergoing hardships, for the same reasons.
I think there are a few people at the top who had, and were milking this ‘game’ for all it was worth, destroying the intents of the FLDS’s(and LDS, and MORMONS, and ALL CHRISTIANS) original founders in achieving purity of soul.
That’s my agenda.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTT
Sizzle, pop.
“Being frigid is not a legitimate reason for attacking someone and taking their children.”
What state is that in? Frigid women taking children away for no legitimate reason, and attacking someone.
Are the Police involved yet? Did they arrest someone?
I haven’t seen it on TV yet? Are you sure....?
Truth means a lot to us, which is why WE are upset about the near continual lying one on the part of the flds.
The Constitution means a lot to us which is why we hate to see cults like this rob their fellow citizens of their Constitutional rights.
Justice means a lot to us which is why we want to see the rest of those scumbags follow their exalted leader into the slammer.
Love your tagline.
“What due process was not followed when they removed the children from the compound? “
I think Soliton gave the answer to that one.
He(she?) said that they had the right to be confronted by their accusers.
I guess he/she means the children were accused of some crime, but I can’t figure out which one yet.
Or maybe he/she means the adults that haven’t gone to trial yet, which is where one would face such accusers.
I have a feeling you won’t get to read this.
If any random person came along, and read posts 132 and 133, you know what they would conclude?
I don’t even have to say.
“You are simply a lunch mob of sexually depressed religious spigots.”
Well, I would agree. Frankly, if we could all get more sex, we’d talk less about religion. (I think. depends on how good the sex is)
Now, the FRIGID part, doesn’t that only apply to females?
Your honor, call me a liar, call me a criminal, but he called me a girl!
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