Skip to comments.Cesaer Laurean CAPTURED!!!
Posted on 04/10/2008 6:31:44 PM PDT by debm29palms
Cesar Laurean, wanted since Jan. 11 for the killing of a pregnant Camp Lejeune Marine, has been captured in Mexico, said Capt. Rick Sutherland of the Onslow County Sheriff's Department.
More details will follow as they develop.
ART. 120. RAPE AND CARNAL KNOWLEDGE
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who commits an act of sexual intercourse with a female not his wife, by force and without consent, is guilty of rape and shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
I don't think that's what HE claimed. If I remember correctly, that's a matter of record in the military case on this.
Be that as it may, it looks like we have the monster.
Immediate trial with the death penalty excuted on his sorry murdering butt. I hope his wife is convicted as well and gets the needle for accessory, aiding’abetting and helping the POS escape to mehico.
Just another example of a domestic terrorist network in America.
Unfortunately they do not have the intestinal fortitude to do what is “Rightful Justice.”
The puke will probably have La Raza and the other lefto hispanic groups begging for a life sentence in his case.
My question is;
Is that charge being handled by the civi’s? Or are they just going to handle the murder...
I do believe that the MARINE CORPS took a back seat to this when they figured out that he was headed to mexico, so they could go after the death penalty without having the diplomatic problem with mexico. I just hope that when the military justice is done with him that they bring back the gallows and hang him!
In my speculation, the perp and his wife were swingers who befriended this Marine. They probably either got her drunk or drugged at their house and that is where the rape took place.
I hope the perp will get the death penalty.
The linked article mentions that the media was saying she was bipolar, and a liar. On the other hand, she certainly did not burn herself up, even if, as has been suggested, she killed herself. Boy, what a mess.
IIRC, the victim was about to testify at an Article 32 hearing on the rape charge when she went missing...then he deserted shortly thereafter.
The UCMJ is kind of a unique system in that jurisdiction is not geographic, but rather based on the status of the uniformed service member...even if an active duty soldier is on leave at the furthest point on earth from any US military installation, and commits an offense, he is still subject to the code. Consequently, even the homocide is conceivably prosecutable under the UCMJ, even it it occurred off post, although in that sort of situation the local authorities normally prosecute state offenses (although in this case, the USMC may want to assert primacy since he killed another Marine). Just by virtue of who and where he was at the time of the crime, he was already in both the state and federal stew pots.
I heard on the news yesterday that about 700 hundred American women have been raped overseas by our soldiers. Over 600 of them were female military. Are there going to be a large number of executions? or will most get their hands slapped?
How many convictions have there been? There may also be cases under the SOFA where a service member was was not convicted under the UCMJ, but was convicted of rape under the laws of a host country which doesn't consider rape a capital crime.
A Military Trial council, like a DA in a civilian trial needs to reach a pretty high bar, and would have to demonstrate extreme aggravating circumstances in order to seek the death penalty in a Rape Case. Although I can't throw precise stats at you, my experience has been that the majority of service member on service member rape cases are barracks incidents that are generally analogous to the date rape allegations that arise from college dorm situations. I suspect the UCMJ keeps this a viable penalty simply because a service member raping a civilian of a subjugated enemy nation is an act of the worst kind of barbarism, and creates harm not only the victim on site, but severely undermines the goals and ideals of the nation as well as placing the soldier's fellow service members at risk for retribution from locals.
Had Laurean stayed and faced the rape allegations against him, he may have gone to court martial, but would have not faced the death penalty. On the other hand, now, if I were the prosecutor and I thought I had the evidence to convict him of rape, I'd go for the death penalty on the rape charge as well as the murder charge just in case he was somehow able to get one or the other charge thrown out or overturned.
While FL may agree with the scumbag Mexicans not to put him to death if convicted, NC may not have to enter into that “agreement”. Even if the Marines don’t put him to death, I think there’s still a chance that the skank will fry.
Notice how the MNM refuses to cover this. I just watched 30 minutes on all cable news channels and NOTHING ON THIS!! Could it be that the MNM is afraid to cover this because he’s a Latino double murderer-rapist AND possibly an illegal alien? After all, he WAS born ion Mexico, making him a Mexican national...
Kudos to the FBI and Mexican Police for finding this guy.....
Sorry I didn’t ping you, I was looking for the old ping list too!
Thanks for the ping, HiJinx. The news on TV last night said the perp was found in his “native Mexico”. Has anyone heard how he got his ‘resident’ status...legally, or illegally, by joining the Army?
I heard that this guy’s wife has been in contact him since he fled to Mexico. Charges might be coming regarding that. I think, IIRC, the wife also helped him clean up the blood stains and she believed that his victim had committed suicide. Somehow I have a suspicious feeling that the wife might have had a hand in the woman’s death. It seems in the beginning the police said the wife was cooperating, but if she remained in contact with the guy (and if it was not a ploy encouraged by the police) it sure sounds bad for the wife, too.
The latest from CNN:
[snip] Since Laurean holds both U.S. and Mexican citizenship, he cannot be immediately deported, Guzman said. His Mexican citizenship requires an extradition hearing, she said.
His capture in Mexico protects Laurean from facing the death penalty in the United States. Mexico’s extradition policy prohibits U.S. officials from seeking capital punishment against fugitives turned over by Mexican authorities.
If Laurean chooses to fight extradition, it could take up to two years to return him to North Carolina, Hudson said.
From your Crime link:
***U.S. Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean, the main suspect in the killing of a 20-year-old pregnant Marine, was captured Thursday night, three months after fleeing North Carolina, the FBI said.***
The MAIN suspect????? So is there a secondary or third suspect????
What I find amazing is that just very recently a sketch was put out showing Laurean with a beard... must have been a hot tip.
Crowds should greet Cesar Laurean with signs of "Baby Killer," "Monster," etc. His wife and her sister should be charged to the max. I am sure there is a way to get him the death penalty.
This is classic. Perps often get nabbed on a completely different charge or dragnet. Good for the Michoacan police.
Fwiw, it is front page “above the fold” at Google news.
He is legal, reportedly became a U.S. citizen in 2003.
His capture in Mexico protects Laurean from facing the death penalty in the United States.
That's one of the reasons why I detest dual citizenship.
I have not found our old thread - but we questioned whether Maria & Laurean had an illicit affair - & she got pregnant & became vindictive when he refused to leave his controlling wife.
If Maria was so terrified of Laurean - we have to wonder how she was lured to the Laurean house. It looks like a woman’s plan - to call her over to discuss child support in exchange for dropping the rape allegation(s).
I have this nagging belief that the wife attacked Maria and bullied Laurean into skipping town. The wife seems not to be afraid of her “murdering husband”. It looks as if he has been following her orders since day one.
JMHO - but I’ve been wrong before;)
Agreed!!! Dual loyalty? I don’t think so...
Nailed it, unfortunately:
It's still unclear exactly how and when Laurean will be returned to North Carolina to face the charges. Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson has agreed not to seek the death penalty in exchange for cooperation in the extradition of Laurean were he to be captured in Mexico, which has traditionally refused to return American fugitives to the United States without such a promise. A contested extradition to the United States from Mexico has been known to take up to a year or more. Authorities in North Carolina are expected to address the issue during a news conference today.
Unless he kidnapped her, this could well be the case. Just from the few facts revealed initially, it sounded that she was had at least a partial involvement. And him having a barbecues over their bodies was beyond perverted!
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From the U.S. standpoint there is no such thing, with the exception of Israeli-U.S. citizenship. In other words, we don't recognize his Mexican citizenship. The problem for U.S. law-enforcement officials in this case is that Mexico considers him a Mexican citizen, and our extradition agreement with Mexico allows the Mexican government to give him whatever “due process” (interminable hearings, etc.) is appropriate as a result of that.
Who can trust the military record. They seem to have taken less than adequate care to make sure the perp couldn’t get at the victim so why should we believe any “judgments” they may have come up with.
The DA is just on CNN now saying that they were forced to agree on NO DEATH PENALTY due to treaty with Mexico signed by the one and only PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER!
From the presser - it looks as if LE was tracking Laurean in Mexico (from his contact with wifey perhaps). They may have been waiting for him to sneak back into the US - and were hoping they could arrest him here - rather than extradicting from Mexico.
Too bad - but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
No other warrants are being issued - based on the investigation to date - however if facts change........
I hope wifey is wilting.
LE is damned if they do & damned if they don’t. I understood the Sheriff’s statement to be “This animal doesn’t deserve it — but we are forced to treat him as a human because this is America” Different nuance I guess;)
Christina’s attorney sure has staked out her turf - he claims she had nothing to do with the murder or the clean up or the burning. We have to conclude she is either the most calculating pre-meditated murderer on the planet or she is deaf, dumb and blind.
Oh - and during the presser - all of the LE representatives went overboard with praise for “Christina” - not Mrs. Laurean. They mentioned how much she still loves her husband (the mother & baby burner)and how she did not provide him with money - which would have been a felony - but only communicated with him - which of course is not illegal.
Her attorney also claimed that the Marines had ordered her not to comment on the case - to keep a low profile and asked that the press respect her privacy in this sensitive matter.
That wifey is smart - she has all of them fooled.
If Cesar Laurean PLANNED to kill Maria - he surely would have taken her to an isolated place and disposed of her body. Wife would not have known or could have provided an alibi and there would not have been a barbecue.
However, if Maria’s killing was the result of an angry rage attack - who is the most betrayed and aggrieved party in this triangle?
And the strangest words out of the captured Laurean “I loved her”. Have to wonder what reaction that admission will provoke from Christina?
I’m just glad he got caught.
I don’t care who takes the credit.
and i hate our filthy government for selling us all out by importing the economic refugees ( like this slime ball) to come take OUR jobs !
mexicans have the special priveledge of going back home and changing ID when they get in trouble.....all we get with citizenship is Jury Duty
I do. NCIS was the one agency I left out.
For the record, I’ve noted quite a few posters are not giving this man the presumption of innocence.
No one knows what the facts will bear.
He may have only been responsible for field day.
We can still execute his wife.
Get a rope!
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