Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot
Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.
The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.
The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.
The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.
Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.
“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”
Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.
Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.
“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”
Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.
Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.
The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.
“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”
The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.
The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.
Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.
“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.
Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.
No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.
Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.
“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”
You keep getting more myopic each day you kick against the prick!
The Lord may be finished with this galaxy but the Lord has world with out ends!
New ones are always being formed
Ouch! that left a mark. (mumble, mumble, misplace a few letters, mumble)
I guess we could be glad it wasn’t Eunuch
(ba dum bisssssshhhhhhh)
“So” they were in bodies like human beings, as the Word states those angels were who fornicated with daughters of Adam, and who remained forever shut out of heaven after their fornication, as Jude also, and Peter, remarks upon, from the Book of Enoch, when they were condemned to never enter heaven again, to take up their habitation there, in their first estate.
The Word says, about angels, that many people have entertained them in their homes, unawares.
Those same angels who had appeared in bodies like humans had just dined with Abraham, before coming to spend the night with Lot.
They ate calf, bread, and milk, specifically mentioned, with Abraham.
In Genesis 18, YHWH appeared to Abraham.
He saw three enowsh, angels appearing as men, who were not “Adam flesh persons”.
Three “Gen 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men/’enowsh stood by him: and when he saw [them], he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,....
6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah and said, “Quickly, make ready three measures of fine meal; knead it and make cakes.” 7 And Abraham ran to the herd, took a tender and good calf, gave it to a young man, and he hastened to prepare it. 8 So he took butter and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree as they ate.
Angel food was tossed out of heaven’s open windows for forty years, while the children of Israel wandered in the wilderness, but on earth, angel’s eath human food in the human like bodies they appear in.
They also took daughters of Adam, “bath Adam”, as wives, and “let down their privy members like horses”, as the Book of Enoch reports the mouth of God -The Word- saying, when thoe women bore nephillim to them by fornication of “alien flesh”
Hbr 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Psa 78:23 Though he had commanded the clouds from above, and opened the doors of heaven, And had rained down manna upon them to eat, and had given them of the corn of heaven. Man did eat angels’ food: he sent them meat to the full.
BTW: clouds is another name for Cherubim, in the Word, as stars is another name for angels; so, specifically, cherubim are called “clouds”. So the Cherubim were responsible for “raining” angels’ food down on earth, through opened windows, from heaven. The word “corn” in the above is from a root that means “threshed grain”. Manna is just a word that means “what” -and “how”, “when”, “whatever”...
Angels eat food, in heaven and in earth, and when they wish to appear as men, on earth you cannot tell them from Adam persons.
You said, God was still "LEARNING".
Is that what you actually think?
He finished the heavens and the earth in six days, and in six days He made the angels [hosts of heaven, spiritual bodies], the stars [hosts of heaven, elemental bodies], and the earth, and all things in them.
Gen 1:3 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Gen 2:1 “Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them”.
The only thing that God has “worked for” since the beginning of creation is the redemption of the lost, by His Spirit striving with each soul as they come into the world, to seek the Light that seeks them and lights them from the time they come into the world. That Light is Christ, and whosoever seeks, finds.
The entire creation, the entire and complete universal creation which was made on days 1-6 will be dissolved and regenerated in the 8th day of creation, which is called “the New Beginning”. It is not true that new worlds are created or have been created since the beginning of creation, as described in Genesis, in six days.
So Jude is not in your Bible?
That figures. -you sure have a short canon, indeed, and what you do have is all chopped to pieces and great parts of it are discarded: the Mormons have nothing on you in that respect, as you are guilty of the same sin of telling us that what is written is of your private interpretation, even though what you “interpret” is not what is written in the Word as it was given to the prophets of old.
Nevertheless, the testimony of God stands in truth, and the womb brother of the LORD Jesus Christ tells us that the angels who sinned ...”by fornication”... were chained in hell, as a warning to other [angels: in the “same way”/manner that the nuking of Sodom and Gomorrah “for fornication” was a warning to other men -who would commit the same sin.
Angels and men did not heed the warnings of the wrath to come, and the same sin of fornication was done after the flood as before, by other angels; and so the nephillim, ancestors of the anakim, ancestors of Goliath and his brothers, were on the earth, after that also,: and the same sin of fornication was done by men on earth, after the nuking of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Sexual immorality is called fornication, and the angels were guilty of fornication, as Jude comments on, from Enoch 1 -and other books a good Believing Jew had at his disposal at that time, like the Book of Jasher; the Book of Giants; and the Book of Jubilees, and others.
Dont mean to seem rude but I have no interest in your obsessive preaching post...
Have a good day!
_BTW: “abominable things” done by Sodom and Gomorrah gave the world the term “sodomy” for fornicating with the same sex, and “gonrrhea” for a fornicating STD [and one learns from reading the book of Jasher that fornication was done among them by incest and taking one another’s wives [”swinging”, is the term today]and daughter’s at their “fairs”, when they gathered to have them of old and celebrated like a “mardi gras” and great riotous deeds were done when they gathered to have a carnival and to barter and trade merchandise]
This is from the entry on GHaMoaRaH in Isaac Mozeson’s e-word dictionary of the book, “Origin of Speeches”.
“GONORRHEA GHaMoaRaH Ayin-Mem-Resh-Hey
GOMORRAH____________________________[GMRH]
ROOTS: This is a recovered Hebraicism, not an etymology involving humanity’s Edenic pre-history. The city of Sodom is the acknowledged source of the word SODOMY. Its twin city, Gomorrah (Genesis 19:24), was also nuked to oblivion. In Joseph T. Shipley’s book, The Origins of English Words (Johns Hopkins University Press, 1984), it is noted that GONORRHEA was spelled gomoria in the Sixteenth Century in the belief that the disease was an affliction of Sodom and Gomorrah. This “gomoria” echoes Gomorrah, from [A]MoaRaH or GHaMoaRaH, favoring the traditional Sepahrdic Ayin as a guttural.
The etymon offered in most dictionaries, and the one which influences our current spelling of the term, is gon (semen) + rhoia (flow). These Greek words represent the mistaken notion that discharges of semen are involved. The offered etymology may not be an intentional cover-up, but an innocent attempt to Hellenize an elusive, foreign term.
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“SODIUM $’DoaM Samekh-Dalet-Mem
S’DOME________________________[SDM]
ROOTS: SODIUM is commonly associated with salt, though SODIUM is supposed to derive from SODA (see “SOD”). Latin sedes is a foundation. Since Yi$oD is a foundation (Psalm 87:1), SODIUM has an Edenic source in any case. Linking it to the Biblical source of SODOMY (see “SODOMY”), $’DoaM (Sodom - Genesis 18:20), is an alternative.
The entire region of Sodom was to have been turned into a wasteland of “sulphur and salt” (Deuteronomy 29:22). The Dead Sea near Sodom is so saline that it makes Utah’s Great Salt Lake look like a watering hole for animals on a low SODIUM diet. Lot’s wife, who turns back toward the city, becomes a pillar of salt. The Arabs have named a mound of salt Jebel Usdum. To further spice the SODIUM/Sodom equation, note that “salt of Sodom” was common tablefare in the Near East according to first century Talmudic literature. The “-ium” suffix and spelling might, therefore, be the work of lexicographers rather than representative of the actual SDM salt word as it developed historically.”
“SODOMY $’DoaM Samekh-Dalet-Mem
S’DOME__________________________[SDM]
ROOTS: SODOMY and SODOMITE are borrowed from $’DoaM (Sodom)”
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note: MR Mozeson is not aware of the NT Jude, Peter, and Jasher’s description of Sodom’s fornication, but He notes that Sodom gives us the term for homosexual behavior.
I don’t care that you do not. But I am interested in correcting your errors by posting what is written by the Holy Spirit through men of old, which refutes what you write, today.
So when I notice that you make statements which are in direct contradiction to what has been stated in the Word of God I will reply to those, for the benefit of anyone who may care to see the ease with which your doctrines are fefuted by oen with basic Biblical literacy.
I do not seek out what you post, but when I notice...I will show where you err in doctrine, by what is written of old.
basic biblical literacy does not gaurantee one can post without error of clumsy fingers making errors on striking keys on keyboard -but I correct mine, here:
“I don’t care that you do not. But I am interested in correcting your errors by posting what is written by the Holy Spirit through men of old, which refutes what you write, today.
So when I notice that you make statements which are in direct contradiction to what has been stated in the Word of God, I will reply to those, for the benefit of anyone who may care to see the ease with which your doctrines are refuted, by one with basic Biblical literacy.
I do not seek out what you post, but when I notice...I will show where you err in doctrine, by what is written of old.”
I would like that.
I really don’t think you have read and ponder what I posted
You said, God was still “LEARNING”.
Is that what you actually think?
It is not what I think learning is endless.
The Lord is always improving an eternal progression...
Which part of being able to do this do you not understand to acheive the process!
Whe are you to assume you can correct anyone or I to correct any one?
You have your understanding, I have my understanding, but I don’t preach but will answer when and asked, and I don’t remember asking you any thing!
I know you and I have our own bones, but this guys is not coming from where you think I read some of his stuff I don’t recognized any of the source.
I guess you are in the stone age how did you ever get on the computer.
From Mozeson’s e-word dictionary, on the “Origin of Speeches”
“ [The Greek root of etymology/ meaning truth, and deriving from the Babel-babble of Hebrew EMeT, truth]
...7) EMeT, Aleph-Mem-Tahf, means truth”
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The root of the word Amen is in the edenic etymon for “TRUTH”. The God who was hidden was the “Truth”, worshipped in ancient Egypt as He was revealed in Enoch,ancestor of every human on earth, and who saw visions of Him in heaven.
His name, to the ancient Egyptians, was “AMeN”. the root etymon is the same as “AMoN”. Vowels were not written in ancient Hebrew, and are irrelevant in the spelling of the same names of old texts.
You only made accusations against me on the question I asked you. You did not answer any of the questions, but I will help you on 11.
““Question 11: Why did Jesus call Himself the “AMEN”, the ancient Egyptian name for the “Hidden God”, the “True God”, “God of Truth”, who created all things [whose image they corrupted, as all nations did, as Paul stated in Romans 1]; where is it written that Jesus “hidden God; the Truth”, in ancient writings, that Jesus knew the readers of the Revelation He gave to John would be familiar with and understand exactly “Who” “Amen” is: “
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in a footnote in Ronald K Brown made in his edited version [he deleted the multi-translations of passages from different languages and stuck only with Charles’ translation from the Ethiopian], on page 44, He made this remark, about Jesus’ claim to be “The Amen”, and the hidden God of Truth of the Egyptians:
Quote:
“The ancient roots of monotheism in Egypt reflects this knowledge in its theology as shown by reference to a summary of the citations by egyptologist in the Per-em-hru, Egyptian “The Egyptian Book of the Dead,” E.A. Wallis Budge, Dover Publications, Ink, NY 1967, pp. xcii-xciii.- meaning “The coming forth from darkness into the Light.
God who is one and alone, and none can existeth with him—God is the One, the One who hath made all things—God is a spirit, a hidden spirit, the spirit of spirits, the great spirit of the Egyptians, the divine spirit—God is from the beginning and he hath been from the beginning. He hath existed from old and was when nothing else had being. He existed when nothing else existed, and what existed he created after He had come into being. He is the Father of beginnings—God is the eternal One, He is eternal and infinite and endureth forever and aye—God is hidden and no man knoweth his form. No man hath been able to seek out his likeness; He is hidden to gods and men, and He is a mystery unto His creatures. No man knows how to know Him—His name remaineth hidden; His name is a mystery unto his children. His names are innumerable, they are manifold and none knoweth their number—God is truth and he liveth by truth and he feedeth thereon. He is the king of truth and he hath established the Earth thereupon—God is life and through Him only man liveth. He giveth life to man, He breatheth the breath of life into his nostrils—God is father and mother, the father of fathers, and the mother of mothers. He begetteth, but was never begotten; He produceth, but was never produced; He begat himself and produced himself. He createth but was never created. He is maker of his own form, and the fashioner of his own body—God himself is existencce, he endureth without increase or diminution...God is merciful to those who reverence Him, and he heareth him that colleth upon Him. God knoweth him that acknowledgeth Him, He rewardeth him that serveth Him, and he protecteth him that followeth him.”
The Egyptian word Amen meant “The Hidden One in Heaven.” in this context we see Jesus using this reference to himself in Revelation 3:14”..These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.” thus signifying that before the ancient Egyptians became apostate and idolatrous the Egyptians knew God. “
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Now, Godzilla,
what did Paul say about the Egyptians, Chinese, Parthians, Medes -and so on and so forth- knowing God? -
Romans 1:
God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever, Amen.
Fine, you go worship your egyptian gods, I’ve promised to stay on track for the thread.
I am a granny and I read God’s Word, from where I find that all persons born =come into their being- in Adam are one kind/being/spirit.
we are “made a living soul”, clothed/housed/garmented with a body of flesh, made out of the elements of the creation which we were created to rule, which body had one spirit “formed/stretched out” within it, and given one breath.
All Adam is one kind, one bone, flesh, blood, spirit, and all persons come into their Adam being are individual souls/persons.
That is just what the word of God teaches, to those who read it for themselves and who know how to use the concordances.
One blood -which is the life:
Act 17:26 And [God] hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
The above re-iterates OT, NT, and Enoch: God appointed the times of our coming into our being, individually, and planned redemption for each one of us personally, in the New Man name, by giving us the “Light” when we come into our being, in order that we may seek Him who seeks us.
He who seeks, finds.
One family of “Adam”, male and female persons; one flesh; one bone:
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This [is] now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Laban declares that he and Jacob are one bone, one flesh:
Gen 29:13 And it came to pass, when Laban heard the tidings of Jacob his sister’s son, that he ran to meet him, and embraced him, and kissed him, and brought him to his house. And he told Laban all these things.
All the tribes of Israel declared to David that they were one bone and one flesh: 2Sa 5:1 Then came all the tribes of Israel to David unto Hebron, and spake, saying, Behold, we [are] thy bone and thy flesh.
Adam was made one spirit, male and female [Genesis 5:2], to multiply the seed within, to be the living human sons of God for the filling up of earth, before the fall:
Mal 2:15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed [sons of God]....
He that is adopted [born again, from above] to the New Man are made one Spirit, in His New Name:
1Cr 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
1Cr 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
We who are born again in Spirit have the hope of the resurrection of the body of these elements in the regenerated form of the New/second Man’s image:
Psa 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake[/Hebrew is “laqach”], with thy likeness.
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Rom 8:23 And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.
but will answer when and asked
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Someone claims to answer when asked...
Quick before the wind changes direction..
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