Posted on 03/06/2008 7:32:18 AM PST by edcoil
LOS ANGELES, March 5, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com)
Thousands of homeschoolers in California are left in legal limbo by an appeals court ruling that homeschooling is not a legal option in the state and that a family who has homeschooled all their children for years must enrol their two youngest in state or private schools. Justice H. Walter Croskey in a written opinion said, "California courts have held that under provisions in the Education Code, parents do not have a constitutional right to homeschool their children."
The sweeping February 29th ruling says that California law requires "persons between the ages of six and eighteen" to be in "public full-time day school," or a "private full-time day school" or "instructed by a tutor who holds a valid state teaching credential for the grade being taught".
>>So when does the Revolution begin?<<
Sooner than everyone thinks, I suspect. Just wait until the economy REALLY tanks. Seriously.
http://billstclair.com/lodge/Books101.shtml
Warning: “downer” reply in 3... 2... 1....
Never.
Where are the well-funded homeschoolers’ unions, with the deep pockets to stand up in court against the teachers’ unions? And the armies to resist the power of the state?
HSers ARE ALREADY PAYING for public school, AND have to pay for their homeschooling. They’re two-parent families; if they can, they live on a single income. They attend and support their churches, missionaries, families. They don’t have money-and-time-to-burn. Leave them the Gehenna alone, and they’ll raise smart, capable, productive, INDEPENDENT-THINKING (and there’s the rub) kids.
But totalitarianism never sleeps.
So, no resources, no organization, no revolution.
They win. HSers move, if they can. California loses.
I'm thinking you haven't noticed we lost Kalifornia a looooong time ago...
Here's where to start:
http://hslda.org
Contribute if you can.
DING DING DING DING!!!
We have a winnah!
Yessir, you betcha, we’ve been members from our Day One.
(But I was mainly responding to “When’s the revolution”? Sure hope HSLDA can win the day on this.)
Reference: “ those who actually homeschool may do so legally by informing the state that they are a private school, by teaching a similar curriculum as is found in the public schools (that only means teaching similar subjects, not using similar texts, etc.), by declaring that one is “capable of teaching,” by keeping an attendance register, and by filing an affidavit to the effect of these requirements once per year.”
Actually this case was about that kind of arrangement. Also involved was a Christian homeschool association that provided assistance with curricula, testing and such. The judge was saying that this was illegal. He dismissed the association’s involvement and said that its involvement was aiding in the circumvention of the law.
The judge was affirming that only certified, LICENSED teachers may teach their children.
1) This guy is a Republican
2) We should step back and look at the actual ruling. (which I haven’t done) - If the law in CA states that it is mandatory to send your child to an “approved” school, then I have no problem with the ruling. I would rather have a judge rule on the law than legislate from the bench.
Not quite. Its just we have lots of weirdos here, it is not lost it is just not what you want it to be. Just run away, good solution.
http://homeeddirectory.com/
Yet another moronic, juvenile statement from Illinois, hoping for death and destruction of those that have nothing to do with this judges comments.
Of course this will be overturned, and when that news is posted here, those that are terminally jealous of California, like you, will just ignore it.
When they rolled the Ten Commandments monument out of the Alabama statehouse into the basement, did you call for tornadoes to kill off everyone in Alabama? No?
I could name several thousand other examples of this type of government intrusion from Las Vegas to Georgia, but I won't bother because you people like you are just too damn ignorant to realise this type of government intrusion is now occurring everywhere.
Most likely your state does not have the ability to create law by proposition. We will create that law and it will pass.
“Actually this case was about that kind of arrangement. Also involved was a Christian homeschool association that provided assistance with curricula, testing and such.”
I only briefly read the opinion, but my sense was that the family may have been trying to qualify under two different options. Also, I don't know whether or not they submitted the necessary affidavit for the first option, qualifying as a private school.
“The judge was saying that this was illegal.”
If not done properly, in California, it is illegal.
“He dismissed the association’s involvement and said that its involvement was aiding in the circumvention of the law.”
I don't know if the school with which they were trying to associate was properly qualified or certified, or if they were following it properly.
That the justices cited the tutoring option as going unfulfilled for lack of a certified teacher at least suggests that it's possible that they didn't have evidence of the first option (qualifying as a private school) or the third option (qualifying through another private school) .
It appears that this family has trouble with the child welfare folks (I don't know whether that's justified or not). It may be that this family didn't fill out the right forms properly, and the justices decided to get ‘em on a technicality. I don't know.
Even the HSLDA is still a little cautious about this one:
“Home School Legal Defense Association was not involved with this case, and the family are not members, which is why we only heard about this case when the opinion was released on February 28, 2008.
“Since legal cases have many facets, and we are starting from scratch, it takes time to investigate and fully absorb all the facts which led up to a particular decision. We are in the middle of that process, but because of the interest in this case we want to give you as much information as we can regarding the implications for California.”
That was posted on Tuesday, March 6. Thus, after about a week of working on the case, they're still figuring it out.
I'm gonna wait until the HSLDA has more to say about it.
sitetest
Was this handed down from the 9th circus?
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” Thomas Jefferson
It looks like the Constitution is, and has been, under attack.
Those that leave for legitimate reasons, my best to them.
Those that cut and run because they are giving in to the liberal agenda quite prevalent here are quite different in character and strength than those that choose to stay and fight the creeping socializm and anti-American positions taken by those in power.
It's not an easy fight here in California, but I applaud those that stay and fight for our Constitution and God given rights to decide what is best for our children.
I thank God I’ve only got two years left with my son in High School. I’ve told him and his older brother that they’ll be disowned, disinherited and beaten if they don’t home school their future children.
“Were not having kids!”, yeah, right.
I believe it is Marin County that is in the process of passing a law against using fireplaces. They have in the wording requests for neighbors to report those breaking the fireplace law.
Communism at it's finest.
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