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Kerry: Obama Being Swiftboated
Newsmax ^ | January 22, 2008 | Newsmax

Posted on 01/23/2008 9:50:36 AM PST by SpinyNorman

Sen. John Kerry is calling on Democrats to help presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama avoid the fate he endured in the 2004 election -- "swiftboating" by political foes.

In an e-mail sent out Tuesday to Obama's supporters, Kerry wrote:

"I support Barack Obama because he doesn't seek to perfect the politics of Swiftboating -- he seeks to end it.

"This is personal for me, and for a whole lot of Americans who lived through the 2004 election.

As a veteran, it disgusts me that the Swift Boats we loved while we were in uniform on the Mekong Delta have been rendered, in Karl Rove's twisted politics, an ugly verb meaning to lie about someone's character just to win an election. But as someone who cares about winning this election and changing the country I love, I know it's not enough to complain about a past we can't change when our challenge is to win the future -- which is why we must stop the Swiftboating, stop the push-polling, stop the front groups, and stop the email chain smears.

"The truth matters, but how you fight the lies matters even more. We must be determined never again to lose any election to a lie.

"This year, the attacks are already starting. Some of you may have heard about the disgusting lies about Barack Obama that are being circulated by email. These attacks smear Barack's Christian faith and deep patriotism, and they distort his record of more than two decades of public service. They are nothing short of "Swiftboat" style anonymous attacks.

"These are the same tactics the right has used again and again, and as we've learned, these attacks, no matter how bogus, can spread and take root if they go unchecked.

"But not this time -- we're fighting back.

"And when I say 'we,' I mean that literally. I know Barack is committed to fighting every smear every time. He'll fight hard and stand up for the truth. But he can't do it alone.

"We need you to email the truth to your address books. Print it out and post it at work. Talk to your neighbors. Call your local radio station. Write a letter to the editor. If lies can be spread virally, let's prove to the cynics that the truth can be every bit as persuasive as it is powerful. ...

"Barack Obama is committed to bringing our country together to meet the challenges we face, but he knows that power gives up nothing without a struggle -- and to win the chance to change America, we must first defeat the hateful tactics that have been used to tear us apart for too long. ...

"The fight is just heating up -- we won't let them steal this election with lies and distortions."

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; kerry; kerrylied; obama; procommunist; swiftboat; traitor
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Kerry is clearly insane, and has rewritten history in his alleged mind.

To wit:

"As a veteran, it disgusts me that the Swift Boats we loved while we were in uniform on the Mekong Delta have been rendered, in Karl Rove's twisted politics, an ugly verb meaning to lie about someone's character just to win an election."

Only you and the MSM have made Swiftboating into an "ugly verb meaning to lie about someone's character just to win an election." Everyone else sees the exact opposite: revealing the truth about a dishonest politician in order to keep him from winning an election.

Kerry gets it right, but for the wrong people! Here is the true definition of the Swifties: "The truth matters, but how you fight the lies matters even more. We must be determined never again to lose any election to a lie." Or a liar.

"These attacks smear Barack's Christian faith and deep patriotism, and they distort his record of more than two decades of public service. They are nothing short of "Swiftboat" style anonymous attacks."

I don't recall the Swifties being anonymous in any way. In fact, they proudly revealed their identities to confirm the validity of their claims against Kerry.

To this day, Kerry has yet to fulfill his promise to sign Standard Form 180, releasing his military records to the public.

Obama is better off without this lying buffoon on his team.

1 posted on 01/23/2008 9:50:37 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: SpinyNorman

I thought I already read this thread earlier today.


2 posted on 01/23/2008 9:51:32 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: SpinyNorman

John Effing Kerry served in Vietnam you know? He was a war hero you know?


3 posted on 01/23/2008 9:51:44 AM PST by Meadow Muffin
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To: SpinyNorman

Kerry: Swiftboating is the use of truth to counter my lies about my past. It should not be allowed.


4 posted on 01/23/2008 9:53:07 AM PST by aruanan
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To: SpinyNorman

With supporters like Kerry, who needs Swiftboats? ROFL!


5 posted on 01/23/2008 9:53:17 AM PST by Spok (Now a confirmed one-issue voter; RTKBA.)
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To: SpinyNorman

Kerry might come across as a deranged, self-obsessed sore loser, but just you watch. If history is any guide, he’ll make a documentary which will win him an Oscar and springboard it into a Nobel Peace Prize.


6 posted on 01/23/2008 9:53:52 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Carbon Dioxide is NOT POLLUTION. It is PLANT FOOD, necessary for all life on Earth.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I thought I already read this thread earlier today.

Maybe it was deja vu, or then again maybe it was seared - SEARED into your mind.

7 posted on 01/23/2008 9:54:37 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: SpinyNorman

Notice Lurch is talking about what Hillery is doing but as if it’s the Republicans.


8 posted on 01/23/2008 9:55:37 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: SpinyNorman

I wasn’t aware that Obama had an “embellished” war record or that he turned against his comrades in arms.


9 posted on 01/23/2008 9:56:11 AM PST by VR-21
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SIGN THE FORM 180 AND STFU JEAN FRANCOIS KERRY!
10 posted on 01/23/2008 9:57:15 AM PST by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: BuffaloJack
I thought I already read this thread earlier today.

Perhaps you read it before you read it?

11 posted on 01/23/2008 9:57:27 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SpinyNorman
To this day, Kerry has yet to fulfill his promise to sign Standard Form 180, releasing his military records to the public.

I'm betting he actually has signed the form.

He just hasn't submitted it.

12 posted on 01/23/2008 9:58:24 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: SpinyNorman
Obama is better off without this lying buffoon on his team.

Kerry's endorsement is sort of the equivalent of walking around with your fly open, and no one will tell you.

I think it's delicious; he snubs Hillary! and attaches himself like a carbuncle to Obama.

13 posted on 01/23/2008 10:00:00 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: SpinyNorman

In my lexicon “swiftboating” means telling the truth about someone.

By all means Obama should be “swiftboated”...along with all the other candidates.


14 posted on 01/23/2008 10:01:00 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: SpinyNorman
Kerry calls it a lie when someone mentions his acts of cowardice and treason during the Vietnam war. He wants to create an environment where nobody can raise legitimate concerns about candidates on the left. It’s OK to question Romney’s Mormon religion and Huckabee’s religion but it’s not OK to question Obama’s Afrocentric religion.
15 posted on 01/23/2008 10:04:56 AM PST by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERMINATED PREGNANCY)
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To: SpinyNorman
I didn't know Obama wouldn't sign and submit Standard Form SF-180 to the Federal Records Center in St. Louis, Missouri, releasing his ENTIRE, unredacted military record to the public.

I didn't even know Obama had a military record.

16 posted on 01/23/2008 10:05:44 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: SpinyNorman
Funny, but for all his faults, I don't remember Obama slandering American troops while they were still in the fight.
17 posted on 01/23/2008 10:08:44 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Abolish the CIA, give the job to the Free Clinic who know how to stop leaks.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Obama met with the enemy in France to “negotiate the peace” in an unpopular war???


18 posted on 01/23/2008 10:09:24 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: peeps36

The correct term is “BORKING”. Barak is being BORKED.


19 posted on 01/23/2008 10:10:17 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: SpinyNorman
"This is personal for me, and for a whole lot of Americans who lived through the 2004 election."

As one who was in Vietnam when you called us all war criminals for your own political opportunism, your defeat in 2004 wasn't political, it was personal.

Now go away, you annoy me.

20 posted on 01/23/2008 10:11:15 AM PST by Snardius
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To: SpinyNorman
"But not this time -- we're fighting back.

"Gomer Pyle, reporting for doody, Sir".

21 posted on 01/23/2008 10:11:20 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: SpinyNorman

Looking for the link to Scrappleface...

Nope, J F-in’ Kerry is really bats**t crazy.


22 posted on 01/23/2008 10:12:04 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SpinyNorman

Dear Senator Kerry -

You can defeat the “Swiftboaters” with your signature. You can prove them wrong, embarass them and stop the “politics of personal destruction.” You can beat Karl Rove at his own game!

One little signature, Senator Kerry, and the pain stops.

Sign the Form 180.

Respectfully,
Freeper kidd

P.S. If you cannot sign the Form 180, then I suggest that you refrain from any reference to Vietnam, in any way, including using “Swiftboat” as a verb. It makes you look like a hypocritical fool with sour grapes.


23 posted on 01/23/2008 10:12:27 AM PST by kidd
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To: SpinyNorman
"This [swiftboating] is personal for me, and for a whole lot of Americans who lived through the 2004 election."

No John, just for you. Let it go -- your fellow vets hated your guts (and for good reason), told the world about your lies and treason, and you lost the election. Deal with it.

24 posted on 01/23/2008 10:17:09 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ontap

I noticed that too. I was wondering who the hell he was talking about?

I haven’t heard anyone on the GOP side say anything bad about Obama yet.

What a fool.


25 posted on 01/23/2008 10:19:55 AM PST by dforest (Don't even ask me to vote for McCain, Rudy, or Huckster.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
To be honest, while I disagree with Obama on pretty much everything, he doesn't make my skin crawl.

I don't think I could stand being in the physical presence of either of the Clintons, or Kerry, or Edwards or Gore.

But I wouldn't mind chatting with the guy.

26 posted on 01/23/2008 10:20:12 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: SpinyNorman

While I was reading Kerry’s words I thought of the exact same arguments you posted regarding the meaning of the word “swift-boating” (it means to tell the truth about a lying opportunist politician, it does not mean to lie about a politician), and the charge of “anonymous attacks”. The Swift Boat Veterans who attacked John Kerry did so on their web sites and in their books, with their names all out there for the world to see.

In fact, didn’t Kerry try to sue some of the BY NAME, later?


27 posted on 01/23/2008 10:20:22 AM PST by samtheman
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To: wideawake

I feel the same way. Although I may not agree with Obama, I believe in his mind he wants what is best for the nation.

Cannot say the same about Hill or Bill.

And am amazed they garner the support they do with real alternatives.


28 posted on 01/23/2008 10:22:12 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: SpinyNorman

As a vietnam veteran John ‘effin Kerry and his traitorious actions disgust me. The voters of Taxachusetts must be some of the biggest morons living in this country.


29 posted on 01/23/2008 10:22:21 AM PST by SPOTTEDOWL (Are frontal lobotomies prerequisite for being classified as a liberal?)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

LOL!

This is now seared into my memory.


30 posted on 01/23/2008 10:23:59 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Question Liberal Authority
Kerry might come across as a deranged, self-obsessed sore loser, but just you watch. If history is any guide, he’ll make a documentary which will win him an Oscar and springboard it into a Nobel Peace Prize.
He needs to find himself an issue.

Hmmmm. Global warming is already taken.

Hey, how 'bout Global Cooling! He can argue for a negative carbon tax!

And that way, the Nobel Committee can cover both sides of the fence. When they give the award to Kerry, they can honestly say they were against global warming before they were for it!

31 posted on 01/23/2008 10:25:36 AM PST by samtheman
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To: SpinyNorman

Rich Lowry used the same terminology. I was thinking the same thing, that I have been wondering how the questions about Kerry’s record became unfounded lies. I notice that the relative youth of some of the writers may explain their willingness to accept Kerry’s word about his war record, and many of the rest of the media who accept the use of the term, swiftboating, are willing to believe Kerry simply because it fits their agenda and gives them cover for their own positions on the Vietnam War.


32 posted on 01/23/2008 10:28:11 AM PST by Eva
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To: SpinyNorman
And here I thought JFKerry was supporting Obama... Even JFKerry knows the Swiftboat Vets were telling the truth... as welll as his want-a-be VEEP McCain.
33 posted on 01/23/2008 10:31:28 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: SpinyNorman

When will they swiftboat hrc?


34 posted on 01/23/2008 10:31:32 AM PST by TwoSue
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To: aruanan

Obambi is actually swift boating the Clintons. Clintons squeal loudly when the truth is told about them.


35 posted on 01/23/2008 10:32:06 AM PST by y6162
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To: SpinyNorman
As a veteran, it disgusts me that the Swift Boats we loved while we were in uniform on the Mekong Delta have been rendered, in Karl Rove's twisted politics, an ugly verb meaning to lie about someone's character just to win an election.

Couldn't read past this disgusting POS from the worst person to ever run for POTUS...lies are all he speaks!

36 posted on 01/23/2008 10:39:24 AM PST by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: SpinyNorman

Oh you big baby, YOU LOST.

Get over it.


37 posted on 01/23/2008 10:41:26 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: SpinyNorman

>to lie about someone’s character just to win an election<

Yes, John. And in your case we’ve determined who was doing the lying.


38 posted on 01/23/2008 10:42:27 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: kidd

John Kerry betrayed America when he lied about witnessing war crimes. He’s in too deep to reveal the whole truth now.

He is a traitor.


39 posted on 01/23/2008 10:45:31 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: SpinyNorman

Damn! No matter what, it’s all about Kerry! It is like Bill Clinton.


40 posted on 01/23/2008 10:45:47 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: G Larry

“an ugly verb meaning to lie about someone’s character just to win an election.”

So does this mean that Dan Rather “Swiftboated” President Bush with some forged National Guard memos?

Or was that a case of “fake but accurate”?

I loathe Stalinist socialists.


41 posted on 01/23/2008 10:46:52 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Meadow Muffin

42 posted on 01/23/2008 10:48:54 AM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

Cambodia too! Ask to see his secret Navy Seal hat that he keeps in his briefcase. “Shhhh.”


43 posted on 01/23/2008 10:51:48 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: SpinyNorman

You said everything I was going to say in your OP.

I have no idea whether the Clinton critiques of Obama are accurate or not, but, just as you said, Kerry has never demonstrated that the SVT attacks on him were false. At best, he has shown that they disagree with him and with some official records, but he has not signed a 180 to permit all records to be released.


44 posted on 01/23/2008 10:53:40 AM PST by pogo101
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To: BuffaloJack
Kerry said,"This is personal for me..."

That says it all. This is about him - not about Obama.

45 posted on 01/23/2008 11:01:19 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: SpinyNorman
This is how the Dems treat war heros! Photobucket
46 posted on 01/23/2008 11:06:23 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: SpinyNorman
The #1 Obama Swiftboat site:

The Obama File

All documented - - and if you find something incorrect, send me a reliable source and link and I'll change it.
47 posted on 01/23/2008 11:21:39 AM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: SpinyNorman

Kerry should have sent the letter to Hillary and Bill if he wanted the smearing to stop.


48 posted on 01/23/2008 11:23:00 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: SpinyNorman

From JFn’s letter: “They are nothing short of “Swiftboat” style anonymous attacks.”

Not a damned anonymous thing about it ... they had an ad in which swiftboaters appeared personally, by name standing up for their truth. Kerry just doesn’t have a very close relationship to even the concept of truth.

And, unless I’m missing something, the attacks on Obama are not coming from the right but from the grifters from Arkansas/New York.


49 posted on 01/23/2008 11:28:58 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: SpinyNorman
Yes, we all know how proud JFK was of his service in Vietnam.


50 posted on 01/23/2008 11:37:51 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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