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The Ron Paul Disqualification (LRon didn't know Iran has an army)
Heading Right ^ | Dec. 24, 2007 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/30/2007 12:07:19 PM PST by jdm

The more Ron Paul talks, the more he demonstrates his unfitness for the office he seeks — and maybe for the office he holds. Yesterday on Meet the Press, Paul came up with a number of stunners, but his take on Iran may have been the most clueless of all:

MR. RUSSERT: So if Iran invaded Israel, what do we do?

REP. PAUL: Well, they’re not going to. That is like saying “Iran is about to invade Mars.” I mean, they have nothing. They don’t have an army or navy or air force. And Israelis have 300 nuclear weapons. Nobody would touch them. But, no, if, if it were in our national security interests and Congress says, “You know, this is very, very important, we have to declare war.” But presidents don’t have the authority to go to war.

Paul shows himself to be completely clueless in this passage. Iran does have an army; in fact, their Revolutionary Guard comprises not just a military but also a financial and intelligence apparatus that keeps the mullahcracy safely in power. The Artesh (regular forces) consists of a navy, an air force, and ground forces, all of which are duplicated in the Revolutionary Guard. Instead of having no military, Iran effectively has two of each branch.

The military expenditures in Iran mirror that of the US. Teheran uses 2.5% of its GDP on military spending, while the US hovers around 4% — and our forces reach all around the world. Iran has a substantial military, one that is well-funded and one that serves a dual purpose of threatening its neighbors and cowing dissent at home. It also funds a serious ballistic missile threat which affects the balance of power in the region. The new Shahab-3 can reach to Europe and certainly represents an existential threat to Israel.

But that isn’t the extent of the Iranian threat. Iran also funds terrorist movements, especially Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad in Syria and Lebanon. Those funds don’t get counted in the percentage of GDP, but they sustain an important column in the aggressive Iranian strategy for hegemony in the region. Any consideration of the threat Iran represents to the world has to include this — which once again Paul inexplicably ignores.

More than anything else Paul has said or done in this cycle, this statement should disqualify him for any consideration, serious or not, for the Presidency. His constituents in Texas ought to rethink his qualifications for Congress, too.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bombbombbombbombiran; iran; israel; military; revolutionaryguard; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile
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1 posted on 12/30/2007 12:07:21 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm
He clearly meant that they don't have a credible military force, no matter how much they spend. The headline is a real stretch.
2 posted on 12/30/2007 12:09:34 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: jdm
For this guy to have gotten the numbers (in the polls) that he gets makes me think the same Libertarians keep voting over and over. Kind of like dead demonRats who get their party's parasites elected.

Because there's no way RP is a viable candidate.

3 posted on 12/30/2007 12:10:36 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: jdm

He’s a Loony Toon.


4 posted on 12/30/2007 12:13:14 PM PST by DGHoodini (The Dems no longer have the humanity to grasp that there are things worth dying for.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“He clearly meant that they don’t have a credible military force, no matter how much they spend.”

Sure it was. Does not matter much, soon he will be out of it and it will be back to the “crazy uncle attic room” for him.


5 posted on 12/30/2007 12:14:32 PM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: jdm

Iran is a country? ;O)


6 posted on 12/30/2007 12:14:33 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: jdm

And .. he’s wrong about the President’s ability to wage war .. it is allowed .. under certain conditions.

Such as .. after 9/11 - we went into Afghanistan WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF CONGRESS to declare WAR. But .. according to Ron Paul, doing such a thing is not even in his playbook, and he’s openly stated that an attack SHOULD NEVER BE ANSWERED.

I’m glad to see this guy debunk himself with his innacurate, ignorant, idiotic statements about the govt and the world and how things operate.

And .. to know this kind of person can get elected to Congress is mind-boggling and proves our schools have done a very, very bad job in teaching how our govt works.


7 posted on 12/30/2007 12:16:39 PM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for GOOD in the world!)
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To: DGHoodini
He’s a Loony Toon.

So are his supporters. I saw a fairly new SUV in town yesterday almost completely covered with Ron Paul bumper stickers.

8 posted on 12/30/2007 12:16:46 PM PST by cowboyway ("No damn man kills me and lives." -- Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I agree with your interpretation of his remarks, but he’s still a loon. He thinks if we ignore the world, it will go away.


9 posted on 12/30/2007 12:19:19 PM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

According to the US gov’t, Tehran uses 2.5% of its GDP on military spending. I’d say that would buy a lot of military might for them.


10 posted on 12/30/2007 12:19:40 PM PST by jdm
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I wonder why he didn’t say what you say he meant. I suppose they do have the ability to aid those who kill Americans in Iraq, which is obviously not going to upset Run Paul supporters enough that they’d dislike Iran’s mad mullahs.
11 posted on 12/30/2007 12:19:43 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda: enemy of civilization and humanity. Ron Paul: al Qaeda's puppet and mouthpiece.)
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To: Allegra

Run Paul ping.


12 posted on 12/30/2007 12:20:45 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda: enemy of civilization and humanity. Ron Paul: al Qaeda's puppet and mouthpiece.)
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To: LouAvul
For this guy to have gotten the numbers (in the polls) that he gets makes me think the same Libertarians keep voting over and over.

More like the same anti-Americans at moveon.org. They are the only people who would support a blame America first white flag waver like cut and run.
13 posted on 12/30/2007 12:22:08 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: jdm

all of which are duplicated in the Revolutionary Guard. Instead of having no military, Iran effectively has two of each branch.”

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...And lest we forget Iran’s Expeditionary Army, that’s allready right across the border from Israel...the HizbAllah ...born in. trained by, armed and funded by Iran. Mentored by ex President Khatami...” Mr Reformer”. Who was/is among those who tell Nasrallah & Mugniyah, how high to jump....


14 posted on 12/30/2007 12:25:33 PM PST by DGHoodini (The Dems no longer have the humanity to grasp that there are things worth dying for.)
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To: LouAvul

YEP...we have a group of Republicans that meets and has a straw poll monthly.....they’ve been bringing people in from the Canadian border and other hinterlands to vote for months.......


15 posted on 12/30/2007 12:27:15 PM PST by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“He clearly meant that they don’t have a credible military force, no matter how much they spend. The headline is a real stretch.

That was clearly shown, when they fought the fine Iraqi military to a stalemate.


16 posted on 12/30/2007 12:28:15 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: jdm

Well that settles it. He’s my man.
/s


17 posted on 12/30/2007 12:30:13 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Man50D

“I thought Europe was a country.”

“I know they speak French there.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANTDkfkoBaI


18 posted on 12/30/2007 12:30:42 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: CyberAnt

“And .. to know this kind of person can get elected to Congress is mind-boggling and proves our schools have done a very, very bad job in teaching how our govt works.”

Schooling doesn’t have anything to do with it. It’s all that pork for his district he applies for and then votes no on because he knows it’ll be approved anyway.


19 posted on 12/30/2007 12:30:56 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: jdm
RP doesn’t think it’s important what Iran, Israel or any other country do.
He and followers think we can, the words of the Blues Brothers, stay home for the next 10 years.

RP thinks we can stay home, smoke dope, listen to Willie Nelson and everything will be just fine.

He is a naive loon...

20 posted on 12/30/2007 12:31:26 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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