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To: LiteKeeper

Weak.

Shouldn’t you be at a Zealots meeting or something?

You got nothing.

Try quoting something authoritative.

And while you’re at it, try to actually quote something rather than misquoting.


85 posted on 12/11/2007 4:52:00 PM PST by neodanite (I will stop laughing at John Kerry when he admits he will never be president.)
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To: neodanite
Where is the misquote?

LeGgrand Richards and Bruce McConkie can be ignored?

Interesting!

147 posted on 12/11/2007 5:31:11 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: neodanite; colorcountry; FastCoyote; MHGinTN; Pan_Yans Wife; svcw; Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion; ...
And while you’re at it, try to actually quote something rather than misquoting.

Rather interesting screen name you have...NEO-Danite...

“We have a company of Danites in these times, to put to right physically that which is not right, and to cleanse the Church of very great evils which hath hitherto existed among us inasmuch as they cannot be put to right by teachings & persuasions.”

-    Joseph Smith diary, Missouri Journal, 1838, March to September, under July 27, 1838; also Dean Jessee, ed., The Papers of Joseph Smith, 1992, v. 2, p. 262 (this quote is crossed out in this book); also in Faulring, An American Prophet’s Record, p. 198

“I sent [Orrin] Rockwell [leader of the Danites] to kill Boggs, but he missed him, it was a failure; he wounded him instead of sending him to Hell.”

-    Joseph Smith, Jr. as quoted by William Law in a statement on July 31, 1887, in William Law: Biographical Essay, Nauvoo Diary, Correspondence, Interview, 1994, pp. 166-117
 
The Danites were a secretive group of Mormons organized and apparently abolished in the same year, 1838. They were founded by a man, Sampson Avard, who was striving to use the Church as a tool for power. Members were bound by oaths of secrecy to support what appeared to be a good cause, the defense of the Church in a time of mob persecution, but ultimately Avard sought to manipulate the Danites into a tool for retribution and violence. While much has been written about the Danites, it appears that they played a relatively minor role and their secret purposes were opposed once they were exposed to Joseph Smith. On the other hand, Joseph supported Avard's group for their openly stated purpose of helping to defend the Saints, and may have erred in not recognizing the dangers inherent in such an organization or the threat posed by the ambitious Avard.

Joseph was not the mastermind behind the Danites, but he gave them at least partial support initially, and his encouragement of militant action to defend the Saints may have made it easier for Avard and his Danites to flourish.

http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_Danites.shtml#danites

 

346 posted on 12/12/2007 6:21:27 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney, fooled TWICE by a Columbian gardener...what kind of discernment for POTUS is this?)
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To: neodanite; LiteKeeper
Try quoting something authoritative.

Here's an LDS Sunday school lesson plan (for LDS children) that plainly teaches that Jesus Christ and Lucifer were brothers, Jesus Christ Volunteered to Be Our Savior.

It is from the official LDS site.

Is that authoritative enough?

462 posted on 12/12/2007 5:42:36 PM PST by delacoert
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