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Huckabee asks if Mormons believe Jesus, devil are brothers
AP ^ | December 12, 2007

Posted on 12/11/2007 4:12:59 PM PST by Tlaloc

Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, asks in an upcoming article, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

The article, to be published in Sunday's New York Times Magazine, says Huckabee asked the question after saying he believes Mormonism is a religion but doesn't know much about it. His rival Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, is a member of the Mormon church, which is known officially as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The authoritative Encyclopedia of Mormonism, published in 1992, does not refer to Jesus and Satan as brothers. It speaks of Jesus as the son of God and of Satan as a fallen angel, which is a Biblical account.

A spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Huckabee's question is usually raised by those who wish to smear the Mormon faith rather than clarify doctrine.

"We believe, as other Christians believe and as Paul wrote, that God is the father of all," said the spokeswoman, Kim Farah. "That means that all beings were created by God and are his spirit children. Christ, on the other hand, was the only begotten in the flesh and we worship him as the son of God and the savior of mankind. Satan is the exact opposite of who Christ is and what he stands for."

Romney did not respond to a request for comment.

Earlier this month in Iowa, Huckabee wouldn't say whether he thought Mormonism — rival Romney's religion — was a cult.

"I'm just not going to go off into evaluating other people's doctrines and faiths. I think that is absolutely not a role for a president," the former Arkansas governor said.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: awwshucks; biblefight; carterx2; dirtytricks; expiredjuice; huckabee; huckabeesholywar; mormon; mormonism; reduxcarter; rinos; romney; satan; shazam
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To: ECM
Quote from "Roughing It" by Mark Twain: "Some people have to have a world of evidence before they can come anywhere in the neighborhood of believing anything, but for me when a man tells me that he has seen the engravings which are upon the plates and not only that, but an angel was there at the time and saw them see him and probably took his receipt for it, I am very far on the road to conviction no matter whether I have ever heard of that man before or not, and even if I do not know the name of the angel or his nationality either. "

" Next is this, "And also the testimony of eight witnesses. Be it know unto all nations, kindreds, tongues and people unto whom this work shall come, that Joseph Smith,Jun., the translator of this work, has shown unto us the plates of which hath been spoken, which have the appearance of gold and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands; and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work and of curious workmanship. And this we bear record of with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith was got the plates of which we have spoken. And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen. And we lie not, God bearing witness of it. Christina Whitmer, Jacob Whitmer, Peter Whitmer, Jun., John Whitmer, Hiram Page, Joseph Smith, Sen., Hyrum Smith, Samuel H. Smith. "

" And when I am far on the road to conviction and eight men. be they grammatical or otherwise come forward and tell me that they have seen the plates too, and not only seen those plates, but hefted them, I am convinced. I couldn't feel more satisfied and at rest if then entire Whitmer family had testified. "

21 posted on 12/11/2007 4:22:21 PM PST by dano1
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To: Tlaloc

Could he possibly be more stupid? And in a NYT’s interview?


22 posted on 12/11/2007 4:22:52 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: DeusExMachina05

jesus-juice ..?

Never heard of it..


23 posted on 12/11/2007 4:24:21 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (I'm Southron,,,and I Vote...)
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To: Mercat

I’ve put in more than three minutes. But like I said on another thread, if Huck gets the nomination he loses the general, and I can’t see a way that he can win in November.

Comments like this Mormon one show his inexperience on the national stage, and if Jesus really is his campaign manager He’d better have a long meeting with the candidate.


24 posted on 12/11/2007 4:24:40 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: JRochelle
He asked a question. Its not like he said they believe it.

Give me a break! If someone asked you if you were having sex with your father would you say, "It's just a question"?

25 posted on 12/11/2007 4:25:46 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (All of this has happened before, and will happen again!)
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To: Tlaloc

Early Mormon teaching was that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers. Lucifer’s plan for redeeming the human race was rejected by Elohim, the head of the council of gods. Jesus’ plan was accepted. I don’t know whether the LDS church still teaches this, however.


26 posted on 12/11/2007 4:25:52 PM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: JRochelle

Are you stupid??

I asked a question. I didn’t say I believed it.

See how it works?


27 posted on 12/11/2007 4:26:01 PM PST by DeLaine
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To: Tlaloc
FWIW, you can read what the Mormon Church teaches about the relationship between Jesus and Lucifer here.
28 posted on 12/11/2007 4:26:14 PM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: Disambiguator

huckabee is slick... but not slick enough to win the general election... the MSM would vivisect the guy... plus, I detect a certain innate unprincipled meaness within Huck that is generally associated with certain “true believers”... these kind of folks will smile and tell you how much they and Jesus love you, while inside they “know” that you are going to hell in a handbasket and that they are “better” than you... they justify lying to your face BECAUSE you’re going to hell in a handbasket and they are saved by God All Mighty with whom they have a special one-on-one relationship to the extent that they have Him on their personal speed dial while you have to settle for His voicemail... this guy would be a hoot if it wasn’t so dang serious a subject matter... Huckabee is our Jimmah Carter but without out brother Billy (at least not yet!)


29 posted on 12/11/2007 4:26:34 PM PST by disraeligears (How was the CREAM Madison Square Garden Concert?)
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To: BlueStateBlues

I’m pretty much a broken glass Republican but this guy is an idiot.


30 posted on 12/11/2007 4:26:34 PM PST by Mercat (Waddle around and make new friends)
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To: Tlaloc
The Huckster...

Just doing the job Hillary's waiting to do.

31 posted on 12/11/2007 4:26:48 PM PST by frankenMonkey (101st Army Dad)
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To: wtc911

I think he’s kinda likeable, kinda folksy, a good decent man...

and at times, dumber than a box of rocks.

If you thought they were having fun with how stoopid Bush is over the past 8 years...


32 posted on 12/11/2007 4:27:27 PM PST by tpanther
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To: Tlaloc

I do not like him Sam I am.


33 posted on 12/11/2007 4:27:41 PM PST by DeLaine (Santa...I can explain)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I have seen lots of threads on FR where that very same thing was stated.

I don’t know what exactly Mormons believe but lots of people think that is what they believe.

I am sure someone will come along and clear this all up.

Don’t get me wrong, Huckabee is a complete ass.


34 posted on 12/11/2007 4:27:48 PM PST by JRochelle (Thanks to RomneyCare, abortions in MA are at the reduced price of only $50.00!)
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To: BlueStateBlues

“But like I said on another thread, if Huck gets the nomination he loses the general”

You’ve got that right.


35 posted on 12/11/2007 4:27:50 PM PST by tabsternager
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To: Tlaloc

Need it be said? FDT for president.


36 posted on 12/11/2007 4:28:51 PM PST by counterpunch (Hillary'08 :: At Least She's Not Rudy!)
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To: SwankyC
Please disambiguate for me how Mormons are a race.

No different than some referring to the Jewish race. I personally am of the Baptist race.

37 posted on 12/11/2007 4:28:58 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: frankenMonkey

Tol'ja it would work, Hill.

38 posted on 12/11/2007 4:29:32 PM PST by Shermy
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To: frankenMonkey


39 posted on 12/11/2007 4:29:39 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Graybeard58

LOL, no doubt. I better go get some beer for this one.


40 posted on 12/11/2007 4:29:41 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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