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To: RegulatorCountry; Salamander
"The God of the Biblical flood is all-knowing, and exists outside of time. So, there is no "before," other than from our own, linear, historical perspective, which even science is beginning to admit is more akin to an illusion."


You have no idea how many times I have tried to explain that to believers and non-believers alike, only to meet with stony stares and non-sequitur responses.



..... and if you think that's a tough concept to get across, try explaining that the "stuff" we're made of really doesn't exist either, no matter how many "strings" physics tries to tie it together with.
72 posted on 11/21/2007 10:01:02 PM PST by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: shibumi

“..... and if you think that’s a tough concept to get across, try explaining that the “stuff” we’re made of really doesn’t exist either, no matter how many “strings” physics tries to tie it together with.”

I’m sorry, I don’t follow... is this a reference to the fact that all matter is essentially energy or what?


74 posted on 11/21/2007 11:28:49 PM PST by 49th (this space for rent)
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To: shibumi; RegulatorCountry; Salamander; 49th

Are you referring to quantum physics and exceeding the speed of light? Specifically, the possibility that the second and third heavens exist at a speed faster than 186K mps?

There’s a theory that during the pre-Edenic war, again at the fall of Adam, and later at the flood, (among other events) there was progressive loss of ‘bandwidth’ in our physical realm of reality (the first heaven). As the Kingdom of God advances, we will experience a restoration of access to higher bandwidth, thus the experiences of guys like Ezekiel, Daniel, John the Revelator, etc. This also explains the present-day occurrence of miracles, healings, angelic encounters, experiences in worship, etc., as well as demonic interaction.


81 posted on 11/22/2007 3:22:59 AM PST by ovrtaxt (You're a destiny that God wrapped a body around.)
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