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1 posted on 11/20/2007 10:14:55 AM PST by ctdonath2
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IBrp.


2 posted on 11/20/2007 10:16:08 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Outstanding!

Here we go, folks, and hang on -- it's going to be a wild ride.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

3 posted on 11/20/2007 10:16:44 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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They need to atone for the eminent domain ruling.


4 posted on 11/20/2007 10:17:05 AM PST by Slapshot68
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I would advise Secret Service protection for Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito, at least. Can we get a volunteer crew of food tasters?

One wonders if the SCOTUS will cop out with a narrow ruling that only applies to DC.

7 posted on 11/20/2007 10:18:47 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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There been a controversy over whether the Second Amendment grants an individual right or whether it grants a collective one. The weight of American history and legal doctrine favor the former. Its hard to see how you can carve out an exception to the Second Amendment when every other amendment in the Bill Of Rights is clearly about individual rights.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 11/20/2007 10:19:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Let's emphasize the question here:

“Whether the following provisions — D.C. Code secs. 7-2502.02(a)(4), 22-4504(a), and 7-2507.02 — violate the Second Amendment rights of individuals who are not affiliated with any state-regulated militia, but who wish to keep handguns and other firearms for private use in their homes?”

Indeed, the question is rather narrow - without being unfair. This could well establish grounds for "incorporation" and overturning 922(o).

9 posted on 11/20/2007 10:19:59 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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Kindly append “(SCOTUS takes Heller)” to title for clarity.


12 posted on 11/20/2007 10:24:08 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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5-4 on the good side?

What's the over/under?

13 posted on 11/20/2007 10:24:12 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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This will be both interesting and historic.


14 posted on 11/20/2007 10:25:10 AM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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15 posted on 11/20/2007 10:26:15 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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Awesome. Enough of this piecemeal state and local infringement... Let’s bring things to a head and settle it once and for all.


18 posted on 11/20/2007 10:29:02 AM PST by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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The source article now includes this insightful question:
This an interesting way to frame the question. Miller is generally cited by the courts to advance the principle that 2A rights arise when there is “some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia” [Lewis v. U.S.]

Furthermore, one claim is that even if not in official militia service, the 2A reflects a principle that there is an unorganized militia as well, a possible resource for the state [see esp. U.S. v. Miller] as well as a guard against tyranny.

This militia IOW is not really solely for ‘private’ use by definition. Likewise, even if the arms are used for “private” use (again, a misleading term here), they still are “regulated” by the state in some ways. This is so even if it is not done so as part of a “state regulated militia” as such.

Finally, is “the home” an important aspect here? The dissent in a 1980s 7th Cir. case (Quilici) argued privacy rights are at stake here.

Does the phrasing of the question prejudge the case in any significant fashion?


24 posted on 11/20/2007 10:36:12 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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They probably took the case because of conflicting Circuit Court rulings. Here’s their chance to set the record straight that the 2nd Amendment is indeed what we all know it to be, which is an individual right.


27 posted on 11/20/2007 10:48:36 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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“Whether the following provisions — D.C. Code secs. 7-2502.02(a)(4), 22-4504(a), and 7-2507.02 — violate the Second Amendment rights of individuals who are not affiliated with any state-regulated militia,...

This is ominous. The "question" as formulated represents a poison-pill which can be used as a pretext to destroy the Second Amendment. The conflation of the term "well-regulated militia" with "state-regulated militia" is a dangerous sophistry. The terms are not synonymous.

29 posted on 11/20/2007 10:52:15 AM PST by tarheelswamprat
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I think this is bad timing.

Alitto, Scalia, Roberts, Thomas - individual right

Kennedy, Bader-Ginsbugr et al - not an individual right.

The Second Amendment people should be scouring the speeches of the liberal justices to see if they have prejudiced themselves in this case by prior assumptions on the subject.


30 posted on 11/20/2007 10:52:51 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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Game on! I can hear the NY Slimes and WaPO now:

"Supreme Court radically redefines millions of years of judicial precedent, experts say ruling dangerous, controversial"

39 posted on 11/20/2007 11:18:40 AM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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Does the Court usually hear a case because they want to uphold a ruling?
Would they want to do it for a rkba ruling?
There are a lot of Democrats who firmly believe in rkba, but they are not Sup Ct justices.
I’m a pessimist. Especially after Kelo.


40 posted on 11/20/2007 11:27:32 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Call me a pro-life zealot with a 1-track mind.)
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Here we go.

Soon, we could all be felons.

Buy your plastic pipe before the rush. ;>)


43 posted on 11/20/2007 11:40:04 AM PST by Gator113
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what will be interesting to see is if the ruling also settles the incorporation issue regarding the other “individual rights”


45 posted on 11/20/2007 11:44:26 AM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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Can you remind us of the probable timeline of events again? THanks.


46 posted on 11/20/2007 11:45:06 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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