Posted on 09/27/2007 12:34:22 PM PDT by joan
Retired Croatian colonel Marko Jagetic says that 70 bodies of Serb civilians were collected after the campaign Medacki Dzep.
Retired Croatian Army medical corps colonel Marko Jagetic testified at the trial of generals Rahim Ademi and Mirko Norac. He said that, after the campaign Medacki Dzep, more than 70 corpses of Serb civilians were collected in nearby villages and that many of them had marks that indicated torture and massacre.
- Almost all the executed [people] were civilians and no weapons or documents were found on any of them – said Jagetic, who was the army doctor in charge of the team that collected the bodies of the dead after the campaign.
Following the order of Kornelije Brkic, the head of medical corps at central command, he was to find 52 bodies for a trade, but those bodies could not have signs of torture or abuse. He says that Brkic told him that, if the opposite were the case, his own body may end up in the group for the exchange.
Most bodies had gunshot wounds that, as the witness says, could not have been afflicted from close proximity. There were, however, many cuts, says Jagetic, adding that many of the injuries pointed to heavy torture and a massacre of civilians.
For instance, on the body of Andjelija Jovic, he saw injuries caused by the victim being impaled alive. Former head of forensic medicine in Rijeka Renata Dobi-Babic also confirmed this to him. She was at the helm of the medical team in charge of getting the 52 bodies ready for the exchange.
Jagetic: It was important to move the bodies before UNPROFOR arrived
The bodies that could not be traded because they had torture marks were buried using a mechanical shovel near Gospic or thrown into septic tanks.
- Command was not interested [in knowing] what would happen with the bodies that were not going to be traded. The only thing that was important was that all the bodies be moved from the zone UNPROFOR was entering – said Jagetic.
He also said that there were more men than women among the victims, “mostly middle-aged people.”
He added that, in the field, he saw traces of torture, two men hanged from a tree with a chain and a rope, and that he discovered remains of a human spine and pelvis on a site where a house had burned down.
He also heard about the crimes from soldiers and, a year after the campaign, one of the soldiers had recalled that they had roasted a lamb under the bodies of the two hanged civilians.
- When UNPROFOR started entering the area, they excavated a chetnik leader who had been cut to pieces alive for two hours. He was then put in a trench, covered with earth and a mechanical shovel passed over him – testified Jagetic.
He also said that, in the course of the campaign, houses were pillaged and burned down and cattle was taken away.
Norac: Jagetic was forced to retire because he liked to have a few and this is why he is resentful
Jagetic says that, during the conflict, he sometimes felt that it was admiral Davor Domazet Loso who commanded the campaign who, in his words, ordered artillery attacks on Udbina and Korenica.
- UNPROFOR asked that the fire be ceased and they threatened to start bombing our towns too – said Jagetic.
After his testimony, accused general Norac said that it was not true that the discovered bodies were civilians because Serbian soldiers changed into civilian clothes. He added that he found Jagetic’s testimony pretentious and lacking credibility.
- Jagetic had to retire because he liked to have a few, so he is resentful – said Norac, to which the witness smiled and said that he did not feel it necessary to comment.
Residents of the villages around Medacki Dzep – Mile Drca, Milan Pavlica, Milka Radakovic and Nikola Vidovic – were supposed to testify before Jagetic, but none of them appeared in court.
Pavlica had passed away and the remaining three either did not receive subpoenas or were not found at their addressed in Serbia.
The ironic thing is that the Serb woman impaled had two sons serving in the Croatian army and one of them died fighting for the Croats. (This information was from the testimony of her surviving husband which I posted earlier.)
Also, the Ustashi (Croats) in WWII were known for doing nasty things. Sad part of Europe.
And the “flowers of Croatia”, Muslims, were once proficient at impaling Christians on stakes!
What the heck does THAT mean? It was stated several times.
But it sounds like a weak and probably false attack on him - if that's all they can say - because they can't fight the evidence.
Vlad was Romanian. It is pretty far away. However, the entire Balkan Peninsula has a history replete with things like this. Even the Greeks have been known to be barbaric, and they invented the word (originally to refer to their neighbors).
But when you really come down to it, it is hard to think of a single important ethnic group in the world that does not have somewhere in its past some very shameful examples. By this standard, our American soldiers in Iraq are angels. Embarrasing some prisoners by undignified pictures at Abu Graib scarcely qualifies, except in the liberal mind.
There are even stories about WWII involving American atrocities, but since we won, they were forgotten.
More of Clinton’s legacy: supporting the genocide against the Serbs in the Krajina.
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Sore losers.
Ustashe thugs.
Tortured people are sore losers?
Croatian nationalism is as Croatian nationalism does.
Two friends of mine were lucky to escape Ustasa hospitality, one of them still bares the scare on her neck from when they attempted to cut her throat. She was 13 at the time.
When I hear the term “genocide” thrown around to describe the Serbs of Croatia who ran away by someone who then screams when the Muslims of Bosnia use the same tactic, I have to laugh.
"Genocide" is the term for what the Ustashe dogs committed on the civlians, primarily old people, who weren't able to get away.
Glad to clear that up for you, dupat.
Let’s see: do I trust the opinion of an anonymous person like yourself, or do I trust the opinion of RSK General Celeketic and the RSK political leader Babic who both admitted that the Serbs cleansed themselves from Croatia on the orders of Milan Martic? Hmmm......lmao. Ever read the book “Knin Je Pao u Beograd?” It’s written by an RSK military official who tells it like it is.
I think my friends who survived a blood letting have a different perspective.
They should take it up with Milan Martic and gang who ordered them to “evacuate” the “RSK”.
Read the article and see the reality of what the Ustashe did as soon as they got the chance.
Croatian nationalism is as Croatian nationalism does. When the Croats declare themselves a nation, bloodshed of their victims always follows.
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