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Norwegian F-16s scramble to intercept Russian bombers
F-16.net ^ | July 20, 2007 | Lieven Dewitte

Posted on 07/20/2007 8:01:35 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

July 20, 2007 (by Lieven Dewitte) - Norway scrambled two of its F-16 fighter jets over the North Sea on Tuesday after Russian Tupolev Tu-95 "Bear" bombers got a little too close to their coast for comfort.

It wasn't clear whether the Russian flights were related to escalating diplomatic crisis between Russia and Great Britain, which also sent out jets of its own.

Hours after the Tu-95MS bombers turned back, two Russian Tu-160 "Blackjack" bombers were observed flying westwards, west of the Barents Sea, early this morning, again prompting the Norwegian military to dispatch F-16s. Those flights where in the region between Stavanger and Aberdeen, the heart of the British and Norwegian oil industry.

Although it has been since the end of the Cold War since there were such numerous sightings of Russian aircraft this far south, they didn't do anything wrong. Both times the Russian bombers stayed within international airspace the entire time. It would be pure speculation to guess why they did what they did.

Military officials downplayed the incident, calling the dispatch of Norwegian jets "routine" and the long flights a "natural part of Russian training".

Helge Blakkisrud, a Russian expert from the Norwegian Institute of International Affairs (NUPI), also played down theories the Russians are stoking tensions which have been running high with the British since Russia refused to extradite a key suspect in the poisoning of a Russian dissident living in London. The two countries have since resorted to expelling diplomats.

"It can be a signal that the Russians are rebuilding military might, but I don't think that's linked to the latest crisis," Blakkisrud said in an interview with Aftenposten.no. "As far as I've understood, this was part of a large training mission that's politically approved far in advance."

The British defense ministry confirmed that two of its Tornado jets were also dispatched because Russian bombers were in the area.

From Russian side, a military spokesman today accused British and Norwegian fighters of trying to intercept Russian bombers which were flying over neutral waters near European countries' coastlines.

"The crews of the Tupolev Tu-160 and Tu-95MS strategic bombers on planned flights over the neutral water area of the Atlantic and Arctic oceans reported that they witnessed Tornado and F-16 interceptors of the British and Norwegian air forces approaching them," Interfax news agency quoted Alexander Drobyshevsky as saying.

"British and Norwegian interceptors approached our strategic bombers four times," the Air Force spokesman said, noting those Russian planes will fly over the neutral water near the coastlines of Britain, Norway, Denmark and Iceland.

Two Tu-95MS strategic bombers and two Tu-160 armed with missiles, as well as two Il-78 refueling aircraft were on the flight, which took off on Friday, he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airforce; aviation; navair; norway; russia
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To: CPOSharky

Nope, that’s an F-8. F-8 “radomes” (I don’t think F-8’s had radar) were more pointed in shape compared to A-7’s. And I don’t think A-7’s were used for fleet air defense, but the F-8’s were.


41 posted on 07/20/2007 3:14:56 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: NYFreeper

The fusalage between the main wing and tail is too short to be an F8.

Is that an “NM” on the tail? If it is that’s the USS Oriskany, CV-34. We had lots of Bears around on the IO cruise.


42 posted on 07/20/2007 3:23:54 PM PDT by CPOSharky (An organization that kills those who do not believe it's dogma is NOT a religion.)
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To: NYFreeper

OK, did some checking, you are right. It’s an F8. VF-194 Red Lightnings, CVW-19, USS Oriskany CVA-34.

(Hey, it’s been 30 years since I’ve seen either an F8 or A7)


43 posted on 07/20/2007 3:38:19 PM PDT by CPOSharky (An organization that kills those who do not believe it's dogma is NOT a religion.)
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To: NYFreeper

Excellent call. A-7’s noses were more rounded.


44 posted on 07/20/2007 3:45:12 PM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: NYFreeper

And he’s carrying an air to air missile. F-8’s kept them tucked up close to the fuselage.


45 posted on 07/20/2007 3:48:31 PM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: CPOSharky

Yeah, they can be easily confused. Never seen an F-8 in flight, but the last time I saw A-7’s was back in Korea in the late eighties. When I talked to guys that were deployed with them, they did not tell us anything about what they were doing there, all hush hush. Years later, I figured out they were with the F-117 unit that also used A-7s for training.


46 posted on 07/20/2007 3:53:11 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: mkjessup

That was a joke, right?


47 posted on 07/20/2007 4:54:42 PM PDT by brothers4thID (FDT: "Every notice that while our problems are getting bigger, our politicians are getting smaller?")
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To: brothers4thID

I don’t know. As I said, I have no idea of knowing if it was photoshopped or not. I HOPE it was a fake!


48 posted on 07/20/2007 5:00:46 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: NYFreeper
Nope, that’s an F-8. F-8 “radomes” (I don’t think F-8’s had radar) were more pointed in shape compared to A-7’s. And I don’t think A-7’s were used for fleet air defense, but the F-8’s were.

They did.

APG-30 gunsight radar on the F-8A.
APS-67 limited all-weather in the F-8B/C
APQ-83 on the F-8D (the first real all weather version)
APQ-94 on the F-8E

But a better indicator is the fuselage side mounted AAMs

49 posted on 07/20/2007 8:33:04 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("We can categorically state that we have not released man-eating badgers into the area...")
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To: Oztrich Boy

OK, a gunsight radar and weather radar, did not know that. I figured that since it did not carry radar guided missiles and with the small radome, it didn’t have a radar. Thanks.


50 posted on 07/20/2007 11:48:47 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: NYFreeper
Not a weather radar. It was the full search and track fire control magilla which made the later versions night and all weather fighters rather than just a simple day fighter which the F-8A was.

Also could illuminate for the semi-active radar homing AIM-9C Sidewinder.

51 posted on 07/21/2007 6:33:56 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("We can categorically state that we have not released man-eating badgers into the area...")
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To: mkjessup

You can’t be that dense. That’s a screenshot from a flight simulator.


52 posted on 07/21/2007 9:50:33 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: JewishRighter

They’ll have a service life of 100 years.


53 posted on 07/21/2007 11:23:45 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: mkjessup

That looks like a video game.


54 posted on 07/21/2007 11:25:13 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; wastedyears
You can’t be that dense. That’s a screenshot from a flight simulator.

Which one?
55 posted on 07/21/2007 12:48:13 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: A.A. Cunningham

That’s what I figured, too. Looks like a flight sim to me.


56 posted on 07/21/2007 12:53:43 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Sharpei diem -- Seize the wrinkled dog.)
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To: mkjessup

The picture of the bomber over the Pentagon. We would’ve shot it down and probably gone to war with the USSR.


57 posted on 07/21/2007 3:21:47 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Interesting....didn't know that the Sidewinder had a radar homing version.

You learn something new every day here on FR.

58 posted on 07/21/2007 6:44:27 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: Clam Digger
I just picked up Hunt for Red October on DVD last week.

My favorite line is "Andre, you've lost another submarine?!" The expression on the poor ambassador's face is just priceless.

59 posted on 07/21/2007 6:58:10 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: All

Can someone tell me how to get on the aviation ping list?


60 posted on 07/26/2007 2:21:28 PM PDT by Coupe Flyer
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