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To: rhombus
your reference to a single act of terrorism is short sighted as there have been many, many acts of terrorism. Surely you've seen the lists posted on FR. Jefferson also didn't waste time trying to show there was no connection between this pirate and that pirate.

I agree there were many acts of terrorism -- and I blame prior administrations (primarily Clinton's) for not responding appropriately and possibly preventing 9/11. It is, however, 9/11 to which the "global war on terror" is being fought as a response, as acknowledged by several pro-war commenters on FR. Finally, I'm not a student of the Barbary Wars, but Jefferson clearly did not launch a "global war on piracy" on a promise to attract all of the world's pirates to one place, wipe them out, and bring to the world a pirate-free utopia.

36 posted on 07/19/2007 9:46:15 AM PDT by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
I agree there were many acts of terrorism -- and I blame prior administrations (primarily Clinton's) for not responding appropriately and possibly preventing 9/11.

What would an appropriate response be in your opinion?

I never argued that the Barbary Wars were the same as the War on Terror. However here's a nice link. I think you'll see that there were some similarities as well as some differences. It was interesting to me how Jefferson, the non-globalist tried to work with "the world community" first before "going it on his own".

America and the Barbary Pirates

42 posted on 07/19/2007 10:01:24 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions

Maybe some view the WOT as a reponse to 9/11.

I do not. I view 9/11 as the straw that broke the camel’s back. The wake-up call that made it impossible for Americans to ignore the threat any longer.

The problem with Ron Paul’s approach to foreign threats is that we would have to maintain a defense against a growing threat. He would have us ignore threats as they grow until they were obvious, severe, and immediate. Waiting that long in a world made small by cheap transportation is a recipe for disaster. This is a case where a good defense requires a good offense, and pre-emption is cheaper and safer for the homeland than waiting for the inevitable attacks to come to us.


57 posted on 07/19/2007 11:14:04 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
"...but Jefferson clearly did not launch a "global war on piracy" on a promise to attract all of the world's pirates to one place, wipe them out, and bring to the world a pirate-free utopia

I'm thinking that a military run by libertarians would bring us back to the days of Thomas Jefferson. A small fleet of wooden ships and some powder kegs of gun powder.

136 posted on 07/19/2007 1:39:00 PM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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