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Experiment to Pay NYC Poor for Good Behavior
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284275,00.html ^ | 06/19/07 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/19/2007 5:48:36 AM PDT by Brytani

NEW YORK — Poor residents will be rewarded for good behavior — like $300 for doing well on school tests, $150 for holding a job and $200 for visiting the doctor — under an experimental anti-poverty program that city officials detailed Monday.

The rewards have been used in other countries, including Brazil and Mexico, and have drawn widespread praise for changing behavior among the poor. Mayor Michael Bloomberg traveled to Mexico this spring to study the healthy lifestyle payments, also known as conditional cash transfers.

In New York, the two-year pilot program with about 14,000 participants will use private funds Bloomberg has raised because he did not want to spend government money on something that is highly experimental. More than $43 million has been raised toward the $53 million goal, Deputy Mayor Linda Gibbs said.

The theory behind cash rewards is that poor people are trapped in a cycle of repeated setbacks that keep them from climbing out of poverty. A person who doesn't keep up with his vaccinations and doctor's visits, for example, may get sick more often and struggle to stay employed.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: behavior; bloomberg; poor
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Your tax dollars at work.
1 posted on 06/19/2007 5:48:38 AM PDT by Brytani
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To: Brytani

Woderful, you get paid! more for using tax dollers (going to DR) than for paying tax dollers (working).

Only a Lib could come up with something this foolish and expensive.


2 posted on 06/19/2007 5:51:41 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: Brytani

$200 to visit the doctor? How about $50 for cleaning their teeth and combing their hair? What an incredibly insulting, patronising program.

And $150 for holding down a job. Don’t jobs pay, you know, wages in NYC?

This scheme sounds like “pay them a few hundred bucks to vote democrat”


3 posted on 06/19/2007 5:53:46 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Brytani
"The rewards have been used in other countries, including Brazil and Mexico, and have drawn widespread praise for changing behavior among the poor."

I see. It's not that we have the wrong kind of government governing the people, we have the wrong kind of PEOPLE.

If Mexico's "pay the poor" program is so great, WHY are "the poor" of Mexico climbing all over one another to get HERE??

I await your reply, Mr. Bloomburg.

Mr. Bloomberg??

...crickets...

4 posted on 06/19/2007 5:56:27 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: Brytani

Sound like the old, big city political machine is rearing its ugly head again, with more dollars for patronage.


5 posted on 06/19/2007 5:56:45 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: Brytani
The rewards have been used in other countries, including Brazil and Mexico

And we all know how well Mexico has done fighting poverty. And great, now the Mexicans will be coming to NY because its good behavior program pays better than Mexico's program.

6 posted on 06/19/2007 5:57:11 AM PDT by 11th Commandment
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“The rewards have been used in other countries, including Brazil and Mexico,”

Ah this explains it all I have been wondering where the Mexicans were getting the money to get here.


7 posted on 06/19/2007 5:57:36 AM PDT by Shots (If you see Known Illegal Immigrants it is your civic duty to report them)
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To: Brytani
Dang! what a deal...

...need a fix?....help an old lady cross the street...collect 100 bucks...visit Guido the dealer and bam-o....a couple of grams for today.

Is America a great country, or what?

8 posted on 06/19/2007 5:57:46 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty
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To: Brytani
Sounds like someone needs a lesson in basic parenting. I remember complaining to my Mom about never having gotten an "allowance" when I was a kid, when a lot of the other kids were given money by their parents. I told her that I was a good boy, I went to school, got good grades, did my chores and helped out around the house. As I recall, her answer was something like, yes, you are a good kid and do what you should, but I'm not going to reward you for behavior that is normally expected of you. IOW, doing the right thing, doing what you should do as a matter of course, is it's own reward.

What is the line Chris Rock uses when his gangsta buddies start bragging about "I takes care o' my kids!", something like, "well, that's what you should do, you dumb motherf#&!&$!"

9 posted on 06/19/2007 5:57:49 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Brytani

FR *bookmark*


10 posted on 06/19/2007 5:58:39 AM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: Brytani

How do I sign up for this program? I’d like to be paid for doing the right thing too!


11 posted on 06/19/2007 6:01:30 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: agere_contra
"What an incredibly insulting, patronising program."

It's right out of the Benevolent Dictators for Dummies Quick Reference: people don't create the government, government creates The People

12 posted on 06/19/2007 6:02:09 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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Your tax dollars at work.

Did you read the article you posted? Quote:

In New York, the two-year pilot program with about 14,000 participants will use private funds Bloomberg has raised because he did not want to spend government money on something that is highly experimental. More than $43 million has been raised toward the $53 million goal, Deputy Mayor Linda Gibbs said.
I reluctantly say, "Good for Bloomie!"
13 posted on 06/19/2007 6:02:59 AM PDT by upchuck (IMPORTANT! -> Immigration: What the Deal-Makers don't want you to know -> http://tinyurl.com/2pwp6o)
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To: Brytani

Better to pay the poor to be good than to pay them to use drugs. And while the social engineers are at it, they should look at Social Security Disability. It’s becoming the “new welfare” without the hassles of a social worker while hurting those who are truly disabled.


14 posted on 06/19/2007 6:04:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSM's dumped inner city unemployment stories - Immigration bill conflicts and all....)
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To: upchuck

Umm yes, I did read the article - did you?

“The city is asking the federal government to excuse the payments from being taxed. Participants will be divided into three smaller programs that have different criteria and awards: one for about 2,550 families, one for 2,400 single adults and another for 9,000 children in grades 4 to 7.”

Again your tax dollars at work. I go to work, as does my husband, we pay our taxes, pay our bills, keep our homes up, raised and educated two children and got paid nothing for it. (not even tax credits for the kids - long story). Now, these people will receive income for doing the right thing, TAX FREE income.

Sorry, I don’t agree with this program in any way shape or form.


15 posted on 06/19/2007 6:07:23 AM PDT by Brytani (Keeper of the FR Loofah, Bath-cap and Rubber Duckie)
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To: Brytani

So they’re basically attempting to instill a work ethic into folks who don’t otherwise have one.

I dunno, might just be crazy enough to work. Sounds better than giving them money for just breathing, eating, and pooping.


16 posted on 06/19/2007 6:07:52 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: GOPJ

What makes you think these payments will not be used on drugs?


17 posted on 06/19/2007 6:08:02 AM PDT by Brytani (Keeper of the FR Loofah, Bath-cap and Rubber Duckie)
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To: Dad yer funny

This trial program is funded with private money but does anyone doubt that it will become a permanant tax funded boondoggle?

Here is the most important question:

Why do our so-called leaders persist in copying programs from failed cultures and nations?
In the last century America became the most successful nation and culture in the modern world.

Other countries would do well to emulate America while our leaders would do well to protect and promote our methods and culture instead of going ga-ga over muslim footbaths and Euro-centric socialism.


18 posted on 06/19/2007 6:08:06 AM PDT by BoneShaker
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To: agere_contra

Here’s a great illustration of the difference between Bloomberg and Giuliani. Bloomberg (like Hillary) thinks of us as human resources to be managed and manipulated by the “smart people”. Giuliani understands the injustice and lunacy of expecting taxpayers to work even harder in order to shell out bribes to those who have no work ethic.


19 posted on 06/19/2007 6:08:30 AM PDT by joylyn
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To: Brytani

It would probably be good use of taxpayers’ money to pay me not to drink. :-)


20 posted on 06/19/2007 6:09:11 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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