Posted on 04/30/2007 4:03:49 AM PDT by theothercheek
One thing which definitely does not do Jews any good is the claim that Serbia was promulgating any sort of a policy of genocide against “albanian kosovars”. That one was unadulterated BS.
Turkey showed us its true colors when It stabbed us in the back by denying us a Northern front against Iraq. THAT war would have ended differently.
After generations of secular rule, they SUDDENLY became muzzie again.
To hell with them.
Iffen the Euros let ‘em in, they are even nuttier than I thought.
Never Forget (unless it happened to someone else).
Yup - on all counts.
Abe Foxman’s comments were particularly galling - don’t you think? In fact, he kinda sounded like Amahdinejad (or however you spell that Iranian nut’s name).
No surprise here. Foxman has always been an extreme left-wing piece of...what’s the word...how about @*&%@&*!
Read up on post-caliphate ‘modern’ Turkey. They have always been duplicitous opportunists. Their actions in 2003 were not new at all.
Foxman does not speak for all Jews. He needs a good facial rearrangement, preferably delivered by a petite female Israeli soldier.
Duplicitous - that’s the very word. They are just like the Saudi’s - our other “ally.” With “allies” like this, how can we expect to win the WOT? Can someone please give Bush and Rice a clue?
I grew up in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood in Massapequa, LI, a local Rabbi lived across the street. I’ve attended numerous Passover Seders. I now live in Great Neck which is even more Jewish by percentage. My business partner is a Syrian Jew by way of Montreal. The attitude of ‘never again - unless it happened to someone else’ is one I’ve heard all my life. The only glaring exception in my experience is my partner who is a remarkably conservative person.
It should be noted that the argument in favor of Israel doing the right thing and supporting the Armenian Genocide Resolution instead of helping Turkey lobby against it was published in Jewish World Review - a conservative Web site. It’s sister site for bloggers, Political Mavens, has published several commentaries on the Armenian Genocide, most of which were featured on the home page of Jewish World Review as well.
In other words, the State Department approach was the usual for (relative to the Middle East) an ally of America: all stick and no carrot. State thought they could muscle Turkey because they didn’t think the vote would be even close.
Unsurprisingly, the actual vote took Foggy Bottom by surprise and was one of the biggest failures of Colin Powell’s enervated “telephone diplomacy” approach.
The secular army is protesting Erdogan, who actually took the United States side in that dispute. Opposition to the Iraq war didn’t revolve around an Islamist/secularist split-— 95% of the Turkish people were against it, and Erdogan took a big hit supporting the United States.
So far, the AKP in putting Gul forward isn’t doing anything really extraordinary-— who was the party supposed to put forward— someone from outside it? Secularists in Turkey aren’t entitled to power-— they need to work on expanding their influence among Turkey’s rural voters if they want to succeed democratically.
N-K was Armenian territory - as is Mr. Ararat. The borders in that region were moved around willy nilly after WWI by the superpowers of the day. Again, the Armenian situation here is very analagous to Israel, which only regained its land after a diaspora that lasted generations upon generations.
Darn - should’ve used the preview feature. That should be Mt. Ararat, not Mr. Ararat. Same argument though.
However, since (a) Hitler used the Ottoman Turk’s success in nearly wiping Armenians off the face of the earth as justification for his campaign to exterminate Jews; (b) the word “genocide” was coined specifically to describe the nearly complete destruction of the gene pool in the Armenian Genocide and the Nazi Holocaust; (c) the state of Israel was founded on the principle that “never again” should anyone get away with carrying out genocide - or trying to do so; and (d) Armenians fought Hitler, Turkey enabled him it seems that Israel’s choice is clear. Turkey may be an erstwhile ally today - and it is becoming more Islamist by the day so one day it will turn on Israel. But the truths of history are eternal, and Israel’s allegiance should be to truth and justice.
If you don’t believe this, you are either a Turk or a Turkish apologist. Which is it?
My point is that according to your column, Armenia wants a US House resolution regarding a genocide. Your column also states that Turks are opposing the resolution. Armenians should take that up with our US Congress and maybe Turkey—not Jewish Americans.
We should also be watchful of possibly volatile situations to the south and east of Armenia. There are those who are indicating desires toward radical, symbolic nationalism with wishes toward expansionism.
Abe Foxman is among the American Jews lobbying against the resolution. Armenian American organizations are lobbying for the resoltion. Both sides have Representatives and Senators supporting their positions.
But since this symbolic resolution has international repurcussions, foreign goverments are also lined up against it. Israel has hired lobbyists against the resolution. Turkey has not only hired lobbyists, but sent one of its top-ranking government officials - and now a candidate for president - to Washington to testify against the resolution. As far as I know - it has not been reported in the media - Armenia has not sent anyone over from its government to testify on behalf of the resolution and it seems to be relying on local US Armenian organizations to handle the lobbying effort rather than hired guns in Washington, DC.
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