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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: don-o

You’ve got a messy house! And do NOT deny it. I’ve seen the picture so THERE!


15,581 posted on 04/29/2007 7:37:58 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: JCEccles; KevinDavis

“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites—in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;—in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;—in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
— Edmund Burke


15,582 posted on 04/29/2007 7:38:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: sissyjane
I’m quite sure you don’t celebrate Christmas. Christmas is celebrated by people who are Christians. You can’t possibly be, or you wouldn’t take such pride and joy in insulting and demeaning other people.

You're just wallowing in ignorance tonight, ain't cha?
15,583 posted on 04/29/2007 7:39:02 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: don-o; Brad's Gramma
Grammie’s gonna fight with me.

It is much too late & I'm too tired to open the lounge now. I would rather have advanced notice this way I could promote it as a "pay per view"!

15,584 posted on 04/29/2007 7:39:29 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The greatest danger to our troops is the Congress of the United States.)
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To: don-o
Would you prefer oatmeal, peanut butter, or chocolate chip tonight?


15,585 posted on 04/29/2007 7:39:43 PM PDT by NautiNurse (I am a proud cookie baker.)
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To: gpapa

Wow!!!

I’m so impressed with your ability to copy and paste!

Do you get extra points for that???


15,586 posted on 04/29/2007 7:40:02 PM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

I have buddies? Who knew?


15,587 posted on 04/29/2007 7:40:04 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.vvlf.org)
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To: Brad's Gramma
No fight there. I won a Superfund grant for getting this place declared toxic. Getting me a BIG gubmint check.
15,588 posted on 04/29/2007 7:40:17 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: vox_freedom
Do you like "natural law" by chance?

Do I like it? I acknowledge John Locke's take on it as an important and positive influence on the Founders, and which is relevent to this day. I'm less interested in strictly religious interpretations, as far as our government is concerned.

15,589 posted on 04/29/2007 7:40:30 PM PDT by DGray
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To: Mom MD
Well, since you asked:

I believe abortion is murder. And we have no general federal law against murder. It's left up to the states. So it follows that abortion should be legal/illegal precisely to the extent that each state determines.

Personally I find homosexuality rather distasteful. And I don't think that my tax money should be spent to encourage it. But I also think that by FAR the biggest threat to family in America is heterosexual promiscuity and easy divorce - anyone who turns a blind eye to those problems while railing about the "gay agenda" is disingenous at best.

What does upset me is the idea that these two issues you mentioned are "core" to conservatism, while others (such as freedom of speech and constraining the growth of government) are not. President Bush's signing of CFR was a far greater attack on American tradition than any "gay rights" law.

15,590 posted on 04/29/2007 7:40:57 PM PDT by RexTheRunt (The MSM says "Jump, Republican pigs!" and the GOP tugs its forelock and grabs air.)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Sorry. It was spur of the moment. I was just feeling, I dunno...left out?


15,591 posted on 04/29/2007 7:41:39 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: don-o

Watch that right hook!

Grammie is one tough cookie!!


15,592 posted on 04/29/2007 7:41:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: DGray

1. Much of Greek thought was based on precepts found in the Vedas as there was travel between India (greater India, then) and Greece. So the Greeks borrowed a great deal which was already extant in the Vedas and brahminical teachings.

2. Sodomy laws kept sodomy private. Now it’s on Main Street.


15,593 posted on 04/29/2007 7:42:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: SeaBiscuit
Hang in there Jim, liberals or those with no conscience (redundant?) will always try to convince conservatives that they are out of touch, that conservatives are the ‘problem’, liberals are always the ones when they don’t get their way start saying things like, “their ashamed of America”, just like some are saying they are ‘ashamed of FR’.

BS, pure and simple, they want to take FR and make it something else, they want the GOP to be something else, just as long as it goes their way. How dare you stand up for conservatism on a conservative site..you big bully /s Hang in there and keep the faith.

Great post

15,594 posted on 04/29/2007 7:42:37 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: don-o

:0)


15,595 posted on 04/29/2007 7:42:40 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The greatest danger to our troops is the Congress of the United States.)
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To: KevinDavis

“Than how can you believe in small government yet you want the government banning medical procedures..... “

Are you calling abortion a “medical procedure” or am I missing something here?


15,596 posted on 04/29/2007 7:43:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: DGray

How about natural law as it pertains to homosexuality? Do you acknowledge that?


15,597 posted on 04/29/2007 7:43:09 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I support neither Rudy nor Bush. Both of them have rejected much of what I consider conservatism. But I have no personal disrespect for either, nor for their supporters.


15,598 posted on 04/29/2007 7:43:34 PM PDT by RexTheRunt (The MSM says "Jump, Republican pigs!" and the GOP tugs its forelock and grabs air.)
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To: BykrBayb
Maybe you should read the mission statement here instead of over there. Unless you just can’t resist the light. Your choice.

I've read the mission statement here many times. I support this site. I've gone to other sites that were trashing FreeRepublic and trashing the owner of this site and I've defended both this site and the owner of this site on those sites.

Conservatism isn't about lying and it isn't about smearing the names of good posters who believe in small government a strong defense and the sanctity of human life....and oh yes conservatism is about the freedom to go on the internet and read other sites without being falsely accused of being an anti-Freeper by the likes of you.

I would suggest that you read the mission and that you act like a good respectful conservative.

Your choice 'Bayb.

15,599 posted on 04/29/2007 7:43:49 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: KevinDavis

“No it doesn’t....... When you have the fed gov pass pro life laws, that is increasing the size of the Fed Gov...”

What about laws against murder of people already born? Are they also pesky “pro-life” laws?


15,600 posted on 04/29/2007 7:44:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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