Posted on 04/11/2007 12:30:36 PM PDT by Cecily
Jews' average IQ score is seven to 15 points higher than gentiles and they are exceptionally accomplished, claims the British social theorist Dr Charles Murray.
"Jewish genius", Murray says, is a topic so sensitive that Jews rarely address it. Writing in Commentary, a neoconservative journal, Murray argues that anti-Semitism has succeeded in blurring the connection, but the Jews' accomplishments are scientifically based. Murray said he regards himself as a Scotsman who came to Britain from Iowa and therefore is not afraid to broach and elaborate on the findings in his research.
Murray sparked outrage with his 1994 book The Bell Curve, which addressed what he saw as black under-achievement. He claims that some groups are genetically more accomplished than others. He mentions that from the birth of monotheism to the medieval philosopher Maimonides, the 17th-century rationalist Spinoza, and the scientists, artists and intellectuals of the modern world, Jews have shown a rare affinity with scholarship.
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You mean like raising them communially on a kibutz?
Jewish and Catholic religious scholars are tops. The only difference from a practical standpoint is that a great rabbi is encouraged to have a large family, which is a point of community pride. Meanwhile, even the smartest priests are forbidden to reproduce.
The natural talent of Jews is a fact. Unfortunately, so is their tendency toward self-hatred and suicidal politics. They are simultaneously the cleverest and the most iimpractical (with the usual individual exceptions).
If Jews are so smart - why do they vote 70%+ for democrats...
Because many of us come up short in the common sense department.
What I want to know, is, where are all of these people who bring the average in the US down to 98???? I don't think I've ever been in school with (at any level) or worked with people who were demonstrably of truly low intelligence -- except when, as a kid, I worked in a program for the retarded one summer. (That was heartwrenching)
I live in a world where everyone is above average, it seems - the local public elementary schools' average IQ's range from 115 (low) to 130+ (higher than the private schools - if our numbers are like that, what do the numbers look like in the ghettos? And, how can you expect to close performance gaps between students with 85-90 IQs and those with 125-130 IQs? There is only one way, and that's become the Handicapper General ala Kurt Vonnegut's Harrison Bergeron and drag the higher IQ kids down.
Hmmmm...I wonder what the IQ in your average Middle Eastern country is.
Uh-oh. This sounds “humiliating” to the Arab street. Quick! Hide your cars!
Believe me, they are out there. Try getting some routine task accomplished quickly, efficiently, and with the least amount of brain damage or wasted time through your typical big city/county government bureaucracies. Good luck.
I interpreted that as a statement of ethnic pride, and a shot at what you can and can't say in the politically correct U.S. I assume (and hope, since it would be a significant loss) that he hasn't actually taken British citizenship, which is what it would take to be a "British social theorist."
Then again, maybe the author just meant "social theorist about Britain."
I suspect, however, that only small number of that 2/10ths of one percent are series students of the scriptures. If I recall correctly, neither Einstein nor Friedman were overly religious, for example.
On its face, thats a good thing, ...if... the method doesnt involve eugenics and an increased risk of terrible genetic disorders.
Oh, that's true enough, I suppose, but, it it the result of genetics or nurture or some combination. If it's genetics primarily, then you can't do too much about it. I guess I am pretty much a determinist on these points - IQ is more hereditary than a result of nurture, although nurture makes a potentially significant difference at the margin, up to some unknown point.
I suppose my own relative luck in the genetic intelligence lottery makes me rather blase about the whole thing, and I have never been uncomfortable relative to those who are significantly brighter than I am, indeed, I always been pleased to find such people to learn from.
Why do you think the 'achievement numbers' in (just about everything) the southern US are so low?
Country | IQ (2002) | IQ (2006) | PPP-GNI per capita 2002 | QHC |
---|---|---|---|---|
Hong Kong | 107 | 108 | 27,490 | 60.8 |
Singapore | 103 | 108 | 23,730 | 60.7 |
North Korea | 105* | 106* | 1,000 | 38 |
South Korea | 106 | 106 | 16,960 | 75.4 |
Japan | 105 | 105 | 27,380 | 71.4 |
People's Republic of China | 100 | 105 | 4,520 | 39.7 |
Republic of China | 104 | 105 | 23,400 | 79.4 |
Italy | 102 | 102 | 26,170 | 78.9 |
Iceland | 98* | 101 | 29,240 | 80 |
Mongolia | 98* | 101* | 1,710 | 48.1 |
Switzerland | 101 | 101 | 31,840 | 82.2 |
Austria | 102 | 100 | 28,910 | 80.7 |
Luxembourg | 101* | 100* | 53,230 | 76.4 |
Netherlands | 102 | 100 | 28,350 | 82.8 |
Norway | 98 | 100 | 36,690 | 89 |
United Kingdom | 100 | 100 | 26,580 | 76.7 |
Belgium | 100 | 99 | 28,130 | 84.1 |
Canada | 97 | 99 | 28,930 | 77.8 |
Estonia | 97* | 99 | 11,630 | 64.5 |
Finland | 97 | 99 | 26,160 | 85.1 |
Germany | 102 | 99 | 26,980 | 78 |
New Zealand | 100 | 99 | 20,550 | 76.2 |
Poland | 99 | 99 | 10,450 | 62.7 |
Sweden | 101 | 99 | 25,820 | 82.9 |
Andorra | N/A | 98* | 19,000 | 58.7 |
Australia | 98 | 98 | 27,440 | 82.8 |
Czech Republic | 97 | 98 | 14,920 | 64.5 |
Denmark | 98 | 98 | 30,600 | 85.4 |
France | 98 | 98 | 27,040 | 78.1 |
Hungary | 99 | 98 | 13,070 | 64.1 |
Latvia | 97* | 98* | 9,190 | 65.5 |
Spain | 99 | 98 | 21,910 | 75.8 |
United States | 98 | 98 | 36,120 | 86.6 |
Belarus | 96* | 97* | 5,500 | 57.2 |
Malta | 95* | 97 | 17,710 | 66.4 |
Russia | 96 | 97 | 8,080 | 64.5 |
Ukraine | 96* | 97* | 4,800 | 61.8 |
Moldova | 95* | 96* | 1,600 | 46.2 |
Slovakia | 96 | 96 | 12,590 | 63.2 |
Slovenia | 95 | 96 | 18,480 | 72.4 |
Uruguay | 96 | 96 | 7,710 | 64 |
Israel | 94 | 95 | 19,000 | 75.3 |
Portugal | 95 | 95 | 17,820 | 67 |
Armenia | 93* | 94* | 3,230 | 50.2 |
Georgia | 93* | 94* | 2,270 | 51.2 |
Kazakhstan | 93* | 94* | 5,630 | 49 |
Romania | 94 | 94 | 6,490 | 53 |
Vietnam | 96* | 94 | 2,300 | 39.5 |
Argentina | 96 | 93 | 10,190 | 64.7 |
Bulgaria | 93 | 93 | 7,030 | 59.1 |
Greece | 92 | 92 | 18,770 | 76.1 |
Malaysia | 92 | 92 | 29,570 | 78.5 |
Republic of Ireland | 93 | 92 | 8,500 | 52.1 |
Brunei | 92* | 91* | 19,210 | 50.8 |
Cambodia | 89* | 91* | 1,970 | 28.6 |
Cyprus | 92* | 91* | 18,650 | 67.6 |
Lithuania | 97* | 91 | 10,190 | 65.4 |
Republic of Macedonia | 93* | 91* | 6,420 | 54.4 |
Thailand | 91 | 91 | 6,890 | 50.3 |
Albania | 90* | 90* | 4,960 | 51.2 |
Bermuda | N/A | 90 | 36,000 | 75.8 |
Bosnia and Herzegovina | N/A | 90* | 5,800 | 51.4 |
Chile | 93* | 90 | 9,420 | 59.5 |
Croatia | 90 | 90 | 10,000 | 61.7 |
Kyrgyzstan | 87* | 90* | 1,560 | 48.1 |
Turkey | 90 | 90 | 6,300 | 50.2 |
Cook Islands | N/A | 89 | 5,000 | 45.7 |
Costa Rica | 91* | 89* | 8,650 | 53.7 |
Laos | 89* | 89 | 1,660 | 24.9 |
Mauritius | 81* | 89 | 10,820 | 52.2 |
Serbia | 93* | 89 | 2,300 | 53.8 |
Suriname | 89 | 89 | 6,590 | 50.6 |
Ecuador | 80 | 88 | 3,340 | 47.4 |
Mexico | 87 | 88 | 8,800 | 52.9 |
Samoa | 87 | 88 | 5,570 | 49.7 |
Azerbaijan | 87* | 87* | 3,010 | 47.2 |
Bolivia | 85* | 87 | 2,390 | 49.7 |
Brazil | 87 | 87 | 7,450 | 51.1 |
East Timor | N/A | 87* | 3,940 | 46.7 |
Guyana | 84* | 87* | 3,070 | 40.2 |
Indonesia | 89 | 87 | 1,600 | 28.1 |
Iraq | 87 | 87 | 1,027 | 30.7 |
Myanmar | 86* | 87* | 930 | 42.4 |
Tajikistan | 87* | 87* | 1,640 | 27.5 |
Turkmenistan | 87* | 87* | 4,780 | 41.7 |
Uzbekistan | 87* | 87* | 1,640 | 39.4 |
Kuwait | 83* | 86 | 17,780 | 49.9 |
Philippines | 86 | 86 | 4,450 | 51.6 |
Seychelles | 81* | 86* | 18,232 | 60.6 |
Tonga | 87 | 86 | 6,820 | 40.5 |
Cuba | 85 | 85 | 5,259 | 46.2 |
Fiji | 84 | 85 | 5,330 | 51.9 |
Kiribati | 84* | 85* | 800 | 37.1 |
New Caledonia | N/A | 85 | 21,960 | 54.9 |
Peru | 90 | 85 | 4,880 | 49.2 |
Trinidad and Tobago | 80* | 85* | 9,000 | 52 |
Yemen | 83* | 85 | 800 | 24.5 |
Afghanistan | 83* | 84* | 700 | 13.2 |
Belize | 83* | 84* | 15,960 | 56.1 |
Colombia | 88 | 84 | 5,490 | 44.2 |
Federated States of Micronesia | 84* | 84* | 6,150 | 48.4 |
Iran | 84 | 84 | 6,690 | 40.2 |
Jordan | 87* | 84 | 4,180 | 43.4 |
Marshall Islands | 84 | 84 | 1,600 | 44.2 |
Morocco | 85 | 84 | 2,000 | 39.9 |
Pakistan | 81* | 84 | 3,730 | 31.7 |
Panama | 84* | 84* | 1,960 | 26.2 |
Paraguay | 85* | 84 | 6,060 | 56.6 |
Puerto Rico | 84 | 84 | 4,590 | 45.2 |
Saudi Arabia | 83* | 84* | 15,800 | 63.6 |
Solomon Islands | 84* | 84* | 12,660 | 44.1 |
The Bahamas | 78* | 84* | 1,590 | 41.5 |
United Arab Emirates | 83* | 84* | 24,030 | 48.8 |
Vanuatu | 84* | 84* | 2,850 | 31.4 |
Venezuela | 88* | 84 | 5,220 | 47.4 |
Algeria | 84* | 83* | 5,530 | 39.9 |
Bahrain | 83* | 83* | 16,190 | 49.3 |
Libya | 84* | 83* | 7,570 | 49.3 |
Oman | 83* | 83* | 13,000 | 40.6 |
Papua New Guinea | 84* | 83 | 2,180 | 38.4 |
Syria | 87* | 83 | 34,700 | 38.9 |
Tunisia | 84* | 83* | 6,440 | 40.6 |
Bangladesh | 81* | 82* | 1,720 | 29.8 |
Dominican Republic | 84* | 82 | 6,270 | 46.8 |
India | 81 | 82 | 2,650 | 36.3 |
Lebanon | 86 | 82 | 4,600 | 55.8 |
Madagascar | 79* | 82 | 730 | 28.6 |
Egypt | 83 | 81 | 3,810 | 37.3 |
Honduras | 84* | 81 | 2,540 | 41.9 |
Maldives | 81* | 81* | 4,798 | 38.5 |
Nicaragua | 84* | 81* | 2,350 | 41.3 |
Northern Mariana Islands | N/A | 81 | 12,500 | 51.3 |
Barbados | 78 | 80 | 14,660 | 60.9 |
Bhutan | 78* | 80* | 1,969 | 24.1 |
El Salvador | 84* | 80* | 4,790 | 42.6 |
Guatemala | 79 | 79 | 4,040 | 34.6 |
Sri Lanka | 81* | 79 | 3,510 | 47.7 |
Nepal | 78 | 78 | 1,370 | 26.9 |
Qatar | 78 | 78 | 19,844 | 45.6 |
Comoros | 79* | 77* | 1,640 | 24.6 |
Cape Verde | 78* | 76* | 4,920 | 40.5 |
Mauritania | 73* | 76* | 1,790 | 20.5 |
Uganda | 73 | 73 | 1,360 | 25.4 |
Kenya | 72 | 72 | 1,010 | 27.3 |
South Africa | 72 | 72 | 9,810 | 38.3 |
Tanzania | 72 | 72 | 580 | 23.2 |
Ghana | 71 | 71 | 2,080 | 33.7 |
Grenada | 75* | 71* | 6,600 | 45.3 |
Jamaica | 72 | 71 | 3,680 | 46.5 |
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines | 75* | 71 | 5,190 | 48.4 |
Sudan | 72 | 71 | 1,740 | 24.6 |
Zambia | 77 | 71 | 800 | 21.8 |
Antigua and Barbuda | 75* | 70* | 10,390 | 53.2 |
Benin | 69* | 70* | 1,060 | 20.5 |
Botswana | 72* | 70* | 7,740 | 29.4 |
Namibia | 72* | 70* | 6,880 | 31.1 |
Rwanda | 70* | 70* | 1,260 | 18.5 |
Togo | 69* | 70* | 1,450 | 26 |
Burundi | 70* | 69* | 630 | 15.2 |
Côte d'Ivoire | 71* | 69* | 1,450 | 18.1 |
Malawi | 71* | 69* | 570 | 24.3 |
Mali | 68* | 69* | 840 | 13.4 |
Niger | 67* | 69* | 800 | 13.5 |
Nigeria | 67 | 69 | 800 | 27.3 |
Angola | 69* | 68* | 1,840 | 13.7 |
Burkina Faso | 66* | 68* | 1,090 | 10.7 |
Chad | 72* | 68* | 1,010 | 20.4 |
Djibouti | 68* | 68* | 2,040 | 22 |
Eritrea | 68* | 68* | 1,040 | 21.4 |
Somalia | 68* | 68* | 500 | 15.2 |
Swaziland | 72* | 68* | 4,730 | 22.2 |
Dominica | 75* | 67 | 4,960 | 48.8 |
Guinea | 63 | 67 | 2,060 | 22.5 |
Guinea-Bissau | 63* | 67* | 680 | 20.3 |
Haiti | 72* | 67* | 1,610 | 20.4 |
Lesotho | 72* | 67* | 2,970 | 24.3 |
Liberia | 64* | 67* | 1,000 | 21.2 |
Saint Kitts and Nevis | 75* | 67* | 10,750 | 45.5 |
São Tomé and PrÃÂncipe | 59* | 67* | 1,317 | 37.9 |
Senegal | 64* | 66* | 1,660 | 20.7 |
Gambia | 64* | 66* | 1,540 | 21.3 |
Zimbabwe | 66 | 66 | 2,180 | 25.2 |
Republic of the Congo | 73 | 65 | 630 | 17.9 |
Cameroon | 70* | 64 | 1,910 | 23.1 |
Central African Republic | 68* | 64 | 1,170 | 19.1 |
Democratic Republic of the Congo | 65 | 64 | 700 | 26.9 |
Ethiopia | 63 | 64 | 780 | 16.7 |
Gabon | 66* | 64* | 5,530 | 32.2 |
Mozambique | 72* | 64 | 990 | 18 |
Sierra Leone | 64 | 64 | 500 | 13.8 |
Saint Lucia | 75* | 62 | 4,950 | 51.1 |
Equatorial Guinea | 59 | 59 | 9,100 | 30.4 |
"*" Denotes estimated National IQ.
But of course there are many different types of intelligence and so many diferent components to intelligence, that it's hard to lump them all together under one big heading.
True.
However, God is not slack concerning His promises—regardless of the waywardness of man.
Individuals choose whatever perversities they choose. God still ends up having HIS WAY.
Even the wicked shall end up glorifying God . . . as illustrations of what NOT to do, if nothing else.
:D
It could be the deadly combination of “highly intelligent” while “lacking basic horse sense”.
I know quite a few people like that, my brother and uncle (blood) included.
If Jews are so smart - why do they vote 70%+ for democrats...
Wow. you nailed it. Those 12 words just blew that theory right outta the ballpark.
LOL, I’d like to agree with both of you, but I have an alternate theory: remember, liberalism is a mental disorder, so it could be Jews are smart, but liberal Jews are deranged. Now conservative Jews, like yours truly...
Why would anyone flame you? I, for one, have no preconceived notions or prejudices that would lead me to attack you over the chart's apparent conclusions.
The chart itself is quite interesting, and I look forward to evaluating the data behind it.
I've been wondering that since not long after I was bar mitzvah'd in the 1960s.
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