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Uproar Hits Fla. Confederate Flag Show
AJC ^ | March 17, 2007 | STEPHEN MAJORS

Posted on 03/17/2007 4:30:38 PM PDT by groanup

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — When artist John Sims sees the Confederate flag, he sees "visual terrorism," and a symbol of a racist past. When Robert Hurst sees the flag, he is filled with pride as the descendant of a soldier who fought for the South during the Civil War.

Their differences have flared into a war of words, catching a local museum in the middle.

An art exhibit by artist John Sims, entitled 'The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag,' is show on display at the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science, Friday, March 16, 2007, in Tallahassee, Fla. The exhibit has sparked controversy with the local chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and they have asked the museum to remove it.

Hurst walked into the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science this past week and saw an exhibit by Sims, including a Confederate flag hung from a noose on a 13-foot gallows in a display titled "The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag."

Hurst asked the museum to remove the display, along with 13 other pieces by Sims.

The museum, however, announced Friday it is standing by Sims' work, on display since Feb. 26, because it wants to inspire dialogue in the community about a symbol that engenders a diversity of strong responses.

"There's a balance between the nature of the art that we show and the outcome that we seek, which is to promote dialogue and conversation, and have you maybe think of something in a slightly different way," said Chucha Barber, the museum's executive director.

Hurst, commander of the local Sons of Confederate Veterans chapter, said Friday he has lost respect for the museum, calling the display of Sims' work "offensive, objectionable and tasteless."

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To: CrAZyFreeper
Good. We do not need people like you. I was born in MS and now live in the great state of Alabama. The South is the most patriotic area of the country. I do value my heritage just like I value my Indian heritage. It is what makes me what I am today.
141 posted on 03/22/2007 9:19:39 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: MamaB
MANY Blacks owned Black slaves. that's ONE of the "dirty little secrets" that the DAMNyankee LEFTISTS don't want to deal with.

the other BIG secret is that MANY "abolitionists", northern VIPs & major northern CORPORATIONS were "up to their eyes" IN the "flesh trade" from the first days of African slavery until it's final days in South America.

when slavery was no longer PROFITABLE in the north, the HYPOCRYTES sold their slaves into areas of the hemisphere where slavery was STILL profitable. THEN, the DAMNyankee HYPOCRYTES congratulated themselves that they had NO slaves!!!!

free dixie,sw

142 posted on 03/22/2007 9:20:55 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: ReignOfError
Some of my ancestors were here long before yours. They were here before this became the US. I am proud of every one of them for having the courage to come to a new land knowing that they might never see their relatives again. My attitude is not Neo-Confederate. I have always been proud of the South. My ancestors came here from England, Scotland, Alsace-Lorraine, Holland, etc. Why is it wrong to be proud of my ancestry including Indian?
144 posted on 03/22/2007 9:24:07 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: groanup

DO NOT EVER DOWNGRADE MY ANCESTORS WHO FOUGHT AGAINST THE NORTH'S ILLEGAL INVASION OF THE SOUTH.


145 posted on 03/22/2007 9:26:53 AM PDT by Colonel PK (Say what you will, I don't have to agree with you.)
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To: Colonel PK

You can thank the north for keeping the south from creating a hellhole of a country that would make South Africa look like a good place to live.


146 posted on 03/22/2007 11:02:30 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: tkathy
You can thank the north for keeping the south from creating a hellhole of a country that would make South Africa look like a good place to live.

Oh, I see. So it was the North that created this:

and this:

and this:


147 posted on 03/22/2007 11:25:56 AM PDT by groanup (Limited government is the answer. What's the question?)
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To: from occupied ga; since 1854
Second and just as bad, a-hole yankees who, having ruined their local economies and standards of living by their statist proclivities (ie they sh!t where they ate) and having too little intelligence and far too much amour propre to learn anything from their failures ("we just didn't go far enough") moved here to blight the once free south with things like gun control, "free" health care for the lazy, excessive environmental regulations, outreach programs to increase the welfare roles,

And none of that has anything to do with Tom Watson, or the Talmadges, or Jimmy Carter? You clowns are really incredible.

If you live in the Northeast, you probably realize that most of your parents or grandparents or great-grandparents voted for FDR and that had a lot to do with the kind of America we live in today.

But that someone could live in what was down to our own time one of the most heavily Democrat states in the country and not make the connection between how Georgians have voted and what policies the country followed boggles the mind.

Georgians lined the streets in Warm Springs to see FDR and gave the Democrats more votes than Maine or Vermont ever did. Own up to it. Their Senators and Congressmen lined up for pork for years and got more of it from the federal government than a lot of other states. And what Georgia left undone for a century eventually got the feds involved in civil rights protection. Own up to that as well.

A lot of the problem with these sectional animosities is that people don't see or don't want to see the connections between things. This allows them to think that everything that's wrong is always the fault of some oppressive "them" forcing their will on the virtuous "us," when in fact, people's own choices may have much to do with what happens.

In some people's warped world any criticism of the South amounts to hatred. But really, if you compare what I wrote to what you wrote, I don't think there's any contest in that regard.

148 posted on 03/22/2007 1:38:23 PM PDT by x
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To: groanup
never mind "tkathy". he/she is WELL-known on FR as a DAMNEDyankee & a south-HATER.

free dixie,sw

149 posted on 03/22/2007 2:07:30 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: x
laughing AT you.

don't you get tired of FReepers thinking that you're "not too bright"???

free dixie,sw

150 posted on 03/22/2007 2:09:41 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Thanks. It certainly is obvious.


151 posted on 03/22/2007 4:51:07 PM PDT by groanup (Limited government is the answer. What's the question?)
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To: groanup

An archaic symbol of the losing side of a terrible war.


152 posted on 03/22/2007 4:52:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: MamaB
Why is it wrong to be proud of my ancestry including Indian?

Who said it was?

153 posted on 03/22/2007 7:17:52 PM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Clemenza
An archaic symbol of the losing side of a terrible war.

In fact, respect for the Confederate heritage, until very recent political agitation, was a near universal American sentiment. The Confederate battle flag was carried by fighting men in World War II, Korea, and Vietnam. The display of our flag has been officially supported by the organized descendants of Union veterans. Shelby Foote, the greatest historian of the war, has publicly endorsed leaving our flag alone, a weight of authority greater than many ordinary historians put together.

How can a symbol be archaic when it is as relevant today as it ever was regarding the contract made between the people of America and its government?

154 posted on 03/22/2007 7:44:23 PM PDT by groanup (Limited government is the answer. What's the question?)
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To: ReignOfError
"who said it was" ====> essentially EVERY hate-filled, arrogant, ignorant, DAMnyankee. that's who.

free dixie,sw

155 posted on 03/22/2007 7:45:10 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: groanup
YEP. like so many other DY lunatics, "tkathy's " mind/eyes is/are TIGHTLY closed to anything that DISagrees with his/her ignorant, HATE-filled,PREJUDICES.

ALL the HATE-filled, sanctimonious,LUNATICS of the DAMNyankee coven SHOULD leave FR forever. just think how wonderful it would be to be able to say that FR has NO bigots/lunatics/fools and weirdos of the DAMNyankee persuasion.

free dixie,sw

156 posted on 03/22/2007 7:54:19 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: groanup
Near universal? If you ask my GRANDFATHER, he would tell you that it was a symbol of the "rebels." Gotta love the revisionist history pushed by the suthun boys.

Most of us from the north, and practically everyone who's family has come to this country over the past 100 years, sees that silly flag as a regional phenomenon of folks idealizing a losing cause.

No American outside of the south, apart from members of the Klan, would be caught flying that flag.

157 posted on 03/22/2007 9:38:41 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: since 1854
All Confederates were Democrats.

Hardly. Methinks you should go back and read the History before making statements such as this.

158 posted on 03/22/2007 9:47:27 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
By launching a rebellion to protect an institution built on oppressing others?

Oh let's just forget that the 'slaves' brought to America were brought here under the Stars and Stripes, and let's also forget that many Northerners had slaves as well.

159 posted on 03/22/2007 9:53:37 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: stand watie

Just s style note. Ease up on the WILD use of all-CAPS. It makes guy seem LIKE a raving LOON. This is a convention that goes back at least twenty years, in my own experience, and probably longer.

Folks take you more seriously when you come across as less less wild-eyed. In a word, chill.


160 posted on 03/22/2007 10:57:56 PM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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