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Did "24" Go Too Far?
Townhall ^ | 1/22/07 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 01/22/2007 1:30:58 PM PST by presidio9

When the ABCNews.com column assignment arrived mid-morning --"Is the TV show "24" going too far by depicting a nuclear attack in Los Angeles in its opening episode?"-- the drama went out of tonight's two-hour program. Or so I thought. As zero hour approached, I found myself assuming that the program really wouldn't actually depict a nuclear detonation near Los Angeles. I noted as the show unfolded that the script had the doomsday scenario putting the casualties of such an event at somewhere north of a hundred thousand, a remarkably low estimate, and that no mention was made of the catastrophic impact of radiation sickness or the second level but still devastating impact to surrounding infrastructure, the immediate refugee problem, or the collapse of the national economy. Given that the consequences of such a blast, I found myself doubting that the program would risk absurdity by depicting a post-nuclear attack America far more simple than anyone has a right to conceive.

But blow the nuke, the writers did, and apparently there are four more where that came from. How Jack and gang deals with the aftermath remains to be seen --martial law at least from Bakersfield to San Diego, and from the Pacific to Vegas, perhaps, and a Dow 1200? -- But the question put to me remains: Did the program "go too far?"

Given that there are easily, oh, 10 million people in the world who would stand up and cheer at the real version of Monday night's fictionalized attack, and at least a few tens of thousands trying hard to do a deed of at least proportionate scale given the weaponry available, it is silly to argue that "it" couldn't possibly happen. Of course it could happen. Eventually another nuke will go off, and it is not likely to be the obvious action of a state actor. So what is the "too far" in the question supposed to mean? It can only be that "24" is engaged in fear-mongering, and that is as stupid a charge as can be made.

Would the BBC have been going "too far" if in 1937 it had broadcast a radio drama depicting life in a Hitler-authorized death camp where hundreds of thousands of Jews were being executed in gas chambers, one of a string of such camps springing up across Europe?

Would a Paris newspaper have been going "too far" if it had run a short story in 1913 supposing trench warfare that would claim millions of casualties?

Had PBS run a drama proposing a Communist massacre of millions of Cambodians in 1973 or a Rawandan genocide of more than a half million Tutsis twenty years later, would those prophecies have been going "too far?"

The problem of the last century was a failure in the imagining of evil, a failure which was in some ways evil's accomplice. "It can't happen" often masked the very unfolding of the too-awful-to-occur event.

So now a few people are shuddering that "24" has gone and done it: Blown up Los Angeles and left the most productive part of the national economy crippled and hundreds of thousands dead. An event much more likely to occur in our lifetime than any catastrophe unleashed by global warming has been put on the table (and the LCD) and suddenly tongues are wagging about responsibility.

"Israel must be wiped off the map," Iranian President Ahmadinejad has declared, and he's been repeating the same basic message for a couple of years. No "too far" language regarding him from the critics of "24" I'll wager.

It isn't "only a television show," and appeals to the First Amendment are beside the point. The key question is whether the drama is a bit of absurd science fiction, or the projection of a not-so-distant future, not in its particulars, but in its awful core depiction.

Americans don't like to think of such an attack upon America. But prior to 9/11, they didn't like to think of airplanes crashing into skyscrapers and thousands dead in a moment and the government within hours of being decapitated.

Give the producers another fistful of Emmys and settle in to see how Jack handles post-nuclear America. "OK, I think we can agree that this is a big step up from the canister plot," Dave Barry wrote on his blog in real time after the blinding flash, a reference to the rather labored plot from last year, and an indication that even the veteran humorist who has been dining out on "24" for the past few years to the delight of a huge audience was taken aback. A shock to many, an upsetting nightmare for others.

A depiction of a happy ending for our enemies.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 24; jackbauer; wot
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To: Just another Joe
I truly believe that this will be a reality in some American city before another 10 years passes.

Which will very likely lead to another reality ... American mosques burned to the ground and Muslims along with their enablers and protectors in grave danger of retribution

21 posted on 01/22/2007 1:39:28 PM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: TexasCajun
Jack Bauer and Simon Cowell need sensitivity training!

Simon should join the 24 cast. He could berate the pathetically wimpy terrorists for hours on end!
22 posted on 01/22/2007 1:39:52 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: diamond6

Uh, it's on tonight at 9:00PM. Last night was Rome, which is available on demand.


23 posted on 01/22/2007 1:40:34 PM PST by presidio9 (It's "news" that New Jersey smells bad?)
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To: presidio9

If we leave Iraq with tail between legs, they will follow us home. And they'll be armed...


24 posted on 01/22/2007 1:41:39 PM PST by GOPJ (What secret justified Sandy Berger risking ruin? His first secret theft? I think NOT.)
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To: Calpernia

If TC wrote 'derogatory' (IE, the truth) things about muzzies (pick an 'oppressed' minority), and had a hit show, he'd get flack too.


25 posted on 01/22/2007 1:41:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: GOPJ
"And they'll be armed..."

So will I.

26 posted on 01/22/2007 1:43:04 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: All

"Did "24" Go Too Far?"

OPINION: No.

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27 posted on 01/22/2007 1:43:12 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Indy Pendance
Sadly, we have been asleep for five years. After 9/11, we were all on the same side, and the Liberal political weasels who have always bashed our own country and it's military were too scared to show their true stripes for more than a year. We saw flags everywhere, and we were, for a time, non-hyphenated Americans.

The day the Democrats openly whined that, sure, we liberated fifty million people from tyranny, but maybe it took to long, and was too expensive, I knew that unity was over, and we were rolling over on the couch, looking for the cheese doodles. The day some nameless Dem suggested that maybe they didn't really want to be liberated, America fumbled for the remote and was clicking the channels to see if something else good was on. And the day that the network news giggled that we had reached two thousand dead soldiers, I knew we had rolled back to sleep, safe in the knowledge that even though we had the highest Dow in history, and had to raise interest rates just to slow down our economy, it was the Democrats who, Chamberlain like, would save us from those poor, misunderstood Muslim freedom fighters we had oppressed all these years.

It will take a nuke in LA to make the big American bear wake up again. But thanks to the totally complicit MSM, Bush will get the blame for not stopping it.

28 posted on 01/22/2007 1:43:38 PM PST by 50sDad (I respect other religions by allowing them the right to worship. But they still are wrong.)
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To: presidio9

Tonite. 9 PM. If the left hates it, it must be good.
If the fellow countrymen of the terrorists hate it, it must be good.
Nobody bother me tonite after 9...


29 posted on 01/22/2007 1:43:50 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is ..... see my user name.)
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To: Calpernia
Clancy had the chance. But he let the PC police in Hollywood change the bad guys in Sum of All Fears from Muslims to White Supremacists.
30 posted on 01/22/2007 1:44:11 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: presidio9
Blown up Los Angeles and left the most productive part of the national economy crippled and hundreds of thousands dead.

The writer went too far. LA the "most productive part of our economy"? Don't make me laugh.

31 posted on 01/22/2007 1:45:00 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: presidio9

My family and I are loyal viewers of "24," one of the two best shows on TV (tied with "The Office.")

But I do think the nuclear explosion went too far. Some things are better feared, than experienced, even vicariously.


32 posted on 01/22/2007 1:45:01 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: presidio9

Sorry, I'm new to the show and thought it's timeslot was Sunday night.

My bad.


33 posted on 01/22/2007 1:45:06 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: presidio9
"Given that there are easily, oh, 10 million people in the world who would stand up and cheer at the real version of Monday night's fictionalized attack"

Daniel Pipes usefully estimates the Islamofascist contingent at 10-15% of Muslims. That's at least 120,000,000 who would cheer.

34 posted on 01/22/2007 1:46:01 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: Calpernia
Tom Clancy should get this kid of attention.

If Hollywood had the brass to let his movie terrorists stay Mussies rather than make them politically-correct white supremacists, he would.

35 posted on 01/22/2007 1:46:01 PM PST by 50sDad (I respect other religions by allowing them the right to worship. But they still are wrong.)
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To: presidio9

So, according to this piece, Los Angeles is the most productive part of the U.S. economy.


36 posted on 01/22/2007 1:46:13 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: Calpernia
Tom Clancy jumped the shark when Jack Ryan became president. The same thing is beginning to happen to 24 (which is why I'm hoping they just go for broke this season and kill EVERYBODY). Once Ryan became president, Clancy moved into the realm of science fiction. Ryan's world is LIKE ours, but subtly different. The same thing will start to happen with 24, now that a nuke has gone off in LA. Thankfully, we don't live in a world where a nuke has gone off in one of our cities. Yet. If you think everything changed on 9/11, you can only imagine how different the world will look after that inevitable day.

One noteworthy exception was the prequel Red Rabbit.

37 posted on 01/22/2007 1:46:55 PM PST by presidio9 (It's "news" that New Jersey smells bad?)
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To: presidio9

Maybe it's just me, but I think "Earth vs the Flying Saucers" went too far.



On a number of levels...


38 posted on 01/22/2007 1:47:00 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: presidio9

The left is fond of telling everyone, "Get over yourselves. It's just entertainment."

Yup. It's fiction, people.


39 posted on 01/22/2007 1:47:29 PM PST by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: presidio9
NO 24 didn't go to far.If anything,I think they are being prescient,especially with the way the democraps are throwing obstructions against our national technical means(Also known as Intelligence assets.)

They tell the enemy what we are looking for,what our strength's are,etc.etc.etc.

The enemy is going to attack this country again and the Death toll will make the attacks on 9-11 look like a picnic in comparison.

Who will the dummies blame then?
40 posted on 01/22/2007 1:48:46 PM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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