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What is a Norwegian?
http://www.aftenposten.no/english ^

Posted on 11/03/2006 5:11:44 PM PST by marthemaria

The Equality and Anti-discrimination Ombud (LDO) has asked The Norwegian Language Council to explain its definition of the terms nordmann (Norwegian) and etnisk norsk (ethnic Norwegian) which the Council recently said were equivalent. The matter came to the LDO's attention after an article in the news magazine Ny Tid (New Time) and the Council has been criticized for saying that a Pakistani can never be a 'Norwegian' even if awarded Norwegian citizenship.

LDO section leader Arnfinn Andersen said the matter went to the heart of 'who we are' and how Norwegians perceive inclusion and community.

In the letter to the Language Council the LDO asked on what basis one becomes Norwegian today, in view of the nation's history having been formed by persons not born in the country.

Various media have their own lists for which words are not suited for use in print and on the air. Sylfest Lomheim of the Language Council expressed skepticism about the NRK (Norwegian Broadcasting) practice and media lists of banned words.

District editor Per Arner Kalbakk of NRK's eastern Norway news service defended the policy, and said he did not care what the Language Council thought about it.

(Aftenposten English Web Desk/NTB)


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KEYWORDS: citizenship; eurabia; immigration; norway
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To: Caipirabob

Ah, but its not lutefisk yet. It hasn't had its 1 week beauty bath in lye!


21 posted on 11/03/2006 6:00:50 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: MineralMan

When growing up, we kids (there was 10 of us - cousins) were 'forced' to consume Lutefisk at the Christmas Eve 'smorgesboard' before we could open gifts. The adults thought it was pretty funny to force that 'alledged food product' on us!

My experience was to bury it in mashed potatoes covered with large amounts of real butter and a full glass of milk ready to wash the entire mess down in one massive gulp! Then it was on to the gift unwrapping, ala "A Christmas Story"!

Those were the days.......


22 posted on 11/03/2006 6:02:47 PM PST by The FIGHTIN Illini (I've Got to Get Off Of This Planet! Beam Me Up Scottie.)
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To: marthemaria

What is a Norwegian?

How about the lutefisk test to settle it?


23 posted on 11/03/2006 6:04:47 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: cinives
Lewes, Delaware has a multiple settlement issue. Obviously it was a venture of the Swedish government. A recent list of the fellows who made up the colony shows only a handful of Swedes with 90%+ being identified linguistically as "Finn", which, in Norwegian and Danish records of the day, as well as in most Swedish records, meant "Sa'ami".

When the leadership of the colony abandoned them, these guys actually moved out to what is now York PA (many with their Indian wives).

Still, once a deal had been made with the Dutch colony to the North Sweden continued to send colonists to the old New Sweden colony for many decades.

BTW, it's really, really difficult to deal with these early 17th century settlers ~ the Sa'ami, for example, were illiterate in three languages ~ Sa'ami, Finnish and Swedish. The Swedes, of course, were illiterate in English and Dutch, and the Finns weren't particularly interested in hanging around the Swedes or the Sa'ami and started pushing out on the farthest reaches of the frontier.

It was another century and a half before today's self-identified Scandinavians immigrated into America. The older population was pretty much assimilated and lost knowledge of its identity, particularly the Sa'ami. It's now over 350 years and about all you can do to find these hardy and courageous pioneers in the great woods which was America at that time is to look at place names, try to find a few church records, and work backwords from later settlements, with histories, made by their grandchildren and great grandchildren.

Oh, yeah, another method is to backtrack on hereditary illnesses or diseases such as Scandinavian Porphyria, or Celiac Syndrome, or even several types of Dwarfism, and an intense desire to eat lutefisk.

24 posted on 11/03/2006 6:09:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: marthemaria

Well, you could ask my Great Uncle Ole . . .


25 posted on 11/03/2006 6:14:53 PM PST by Norski
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Kind of a mix ~ still I was able to identify Sa'ami who made it into Norwegian civil registration who ended up immigrating to America about the time of the Napoleonic Wars.

They lived at Pikes Peak (Pecha Piek) and Elkinsville Indiana. Many of their descendants moved to North Pole, Alaska in the 1930s. The Sa'ami and Chu Chi brought over from the Old World to teach the Natives in Alaska how to herd reindeer moved to the same place after their contracts expired. Apparantly somebody knew something at that time ~ after all, the family here had been in the business of creating elaborate woven white oak baskets of all sorts of animals and selling them in Europe for a couple of centuries.

26 posted on 11/03/2006 6:19:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MineralMan

I am only half norwegian though. My dad is from Norway, mom is American.


27 posted on 11/03/2006 6:29:39 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: marthemaria
What is a Norwegian?

I did a websearch and here is what I come up with.


28 posted on 11/03/2006 6:33:00 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: I Hired Craig Livingstone

"Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue. Lovely plumage..."

29 posted on 11/03/2006 6:35:46 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (...a urethral syringe used to treat syphilis with mercury.)
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To: MineralMan
I was raised on Lefse and lutefisk. "Yust stayz on da vinvard side ven da fish a cookin!" Nothing better. (cept Kringla) Tons of mashed or just boiled potatoes, topped off with lutefisk, drowned in butter and pepper. I usually roll the potates and fish into the lefse ... but that takes time. lol I shall enjoy it in a a couple of weeks. uffda! (it's a thanksgiving/Christmas/birthday staple) A problem though. 5 days later when going through the fridge for leftovers one comes across some lutefisk (seldom leftover at our house) How does one tell if it is still good? the "snif" test doesn't quite apply.
30 posted on 11/03/2006 6:52:06 PM PST by HiramQuick
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To: LongElegantLegs

The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.


31 posted on 11/03/2006 6:54:57 PM PST by I Hired Craig Livingstone
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To: marthemaria

BTTT


32 posted on 11/03/2006 6:57:26 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: MineralMan

Is aquavit the secret to eating Lutefisk?


33 posted on 11/03/2006 6:59:42 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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To: muawiyah

And I thought Elko was special because of its Basque population...


34 posted on 11/03/2006 7:02:27 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Doc-Joe
In Finland, the traditional reagent used is birch ash. It contains high amount of potassium carbonate and hydrocarbonate, giving the fish more mellow treatment than sodium hydroxide (lyestone). It is important not to incubate the fish too long in the lye, because saponification of the fish fats may occur, effectively rendering the fish fats into soap. The term for such spoiled fish in Finnish is saippuakala (soap fish).

Fish that's 99 and 44/100ths percent awful.

35 posted on 11/03/2006 7:05:22 PM PST by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: marthemaria

I know someone in Sweden. Her parents are Norwegian, so she has a Swedish passport. Her daughter, born in Sweden, also has a Norwegian passport.

While moving between the Scandianavian countries is without border, people retain the citizenship of their parents country.


36 posted on 11/03/2006 7:07:57 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: Eurotwit

ping ;>)


37 posted on 11/03/2006 7:09:00 PM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: marthemaria

That's Negar Khan...she's Norwegian.

Ask her.


38 posted on 11/03/2006 7:09:39 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: marthemaria

Headline = Me ;-)


39 posted on 11/03/2006 7:10:24 PM PST by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
The Basques came pretty late in history to what is now the United States (as European immigration goes). Remember, the Scandinavians I'm speaking of coming to the Elko area are from an EARLIER Scandinavian immigration wave that began in the mid 1600s.

Elko itself started as a railroad town about 1860. This particular spot, though, was on a pioneer trail Bill Clinton's 5 times Great Grandfather used (and which my own 5 times Great Grandfather used).

40 posted on 11/03/2006 7:15:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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