Skip to comments.NYT Reporting Friday, Sources Say: U.S. Posting of Iraq Nuke Docs on Web Could Have Helped Iran
Posted on 11/02/2006 7:14:31 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
Federal government set up Web site -- Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal -- to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war; detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research; a 'basic guide to building an atom bomb'... Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency fear the information could help Iran develop nuclear arms... contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that the nuclear experts say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums...
Website now shut... Developing...
They are telling us now that Bush's lies are the truth and that the truth may give Iran the bomb and get us all killed and he sucks?
Ladies and Gentlemen, we see the collapse of the New York Times. Moving into a beautiful (?) new Skyscraper on 7th avenue (isn't that appropriate - Think of the line from that great Simon and Garfunkel song, won't you...) Lie la Lie, Lie la la la la la la la Lie la Lie....
Hey Pinch, I never buy your stupid paper.
Holy crap! the NYT does not realize how badly they have just stepped in it. One can conclude three things from this. 1) Iraq was much further along in their nuke program than was reported if it had plans that would be beneficial to Iran. 2)If the inadvertent releasing of information that helps our enemies is so bad, then how can the purposeful releasing of classified information that helps our enemies, (ie. NSA, SWIFT, etc.) be a good thing?Sloppiness is one thing, treason is quite another. 3) The IAEA is useless, and with NK and Iran running to the bomb, we can once again conclude that we cannot rest on the U.N. This is going to bite them in in the butt!
The NYT can't have it both ways.
You might want to check with jveritas. He's been doing a tremendous job of translating.
I'm not trusting that this is all until tomorrow.
NY Times starting to point that out ....developing.............
Ummmmm ... Iran has been working on nukes LONG before those documents were posted
Maybe te NYT might want to try googling news articles
Bush never should have invaded Iraq because Saddam had no WMDs nor any plans for same.
Bush never should have posted the Iraqi nuclear plans on the internet because it helped the Iranian get WMDs.
Is that about it?
I have a great idea! You know those documents the military captured in Iraq and posted on the web to support their case for war? Let's make a story out of the possibility those documents are helping Iran build their bomb!
Umm...Mr. Sulzberger...if we do that...
You Worm! What are you saying? I don't pay your salary to have you disagree with me!
But Mr. Sulzberger, if we do that...we have to go against the talking points and style book, which require us to say that Saddam never had WMD and never pursued them...
That's it! Sack him. And get me a double mocha latte.
Imagine if Bush had kept these documents secret for 3 years and then announced today for the very first time that these documents existed and proved that Saddam had a WMD program. The NYT would be screaming bloody murder about the "October Surprise" and about the administration callously sitting on these documents for political purposes while our troops were dying.
I doubt the NYT and the UN realize they are also saying Bush was right
Bush needs to call a press conference and declassify all this crap........if they know something then spill it, since the media is hellbent on exposing everything anyway.
I bet in 20 years we'll be shocked what W et al knew/know about Iraq.
they're just jealous
Your observation deserves wider dissemination. You are the expert. Suggest you do a "vanity" thread on the subject.
It is declassified. That is why it was up on a public website.
How could they not? Seriously? Do they just think that Iran getting the information is scary enough that people won't notice? Bewildering, frankly.
"Saddam was not supposed to keep any documents related or the Know How of how to make WMD whether its Chemical Weapons, biological weapons, or nuclear weapons. If Saddam regime kept such documents of the "Know How" to build a nuclear weapon then they clearly violated the UN sanctions against them and it proves without any shadow of doubt that they wanted to rebuild their nuclear program".
I'd say that sums it up nicely.
Compliments of the Genius Freeper Dead!
It also begs the question: What's so wrong about Iran having a nuclear program? I thought that it was pure arrogance and hegemony on our part to decide which nations should have nukes and which should not. The president of Iran visited the USA and was treated like a rock star by the New York Times. Heck, we should have given him a nuclear weapon on the way out, just to show him that we really trust him.
I cannot understand why the GOP has not done some kind of Perot styled 30 minute show laying out all the KNOWN links, found documents et al
Christopher Hitchens does it all by himself yet the GOP and the WH can't get their act together and sieze the high ground?
Hate him as I do, but Clinton was a master to the extreme of that.........he would release classified docs if he had to.
Normally I would say Bush shouldn't do that, but I think the MISSION is in such danger now that releasing all classified info would be more valuable than whatever value it has as secret. This is World War IV after all.......and we are on the cusp of having it fall apart.
I have 1780 Iraqi documents downloaded with a size of 13.7 GB :)
DUmmies are already talking about it...
"Get this story spun right. The RW will try to muddle this but don't be fooled. This is a very BAD story for Bush. (At least based on what we know so far)
This is not about Iran having a nuke program or about Iraqi WMD. The docs are from long ago when Iraq had a nuke program. (presumably pre first Gulf war). There is no controversy that Iraq had a nuke program way back when. (Though some RW morans will doubtless misread this story as saying something different) This is about Bush admin mishandling of sensitive nuke information.
The Bush admin was so spazzed out to make bogus claims that they had found anything worthwhile in Iraq they posted sensitive nuke data on the frigging internet which happened to include some nuke data that was not publicly available and that the IAEA fears helped out Iran's nuke program. (This would have been the same post invasion panic phase when Rummy ordered full-on torture in Iraq to find some WMD somewhere, leading to Abu Ghraib)"
"detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research; a 'basic guide to building an atom bomb'... Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency fear the information could help Iran develop nuclear arms... contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that the nuclear experts say go beyond what is available elsewhere ..."
We're guilty for claiming Iraq had and/or was working on WMD - when they "didn't" and now we're guilty for publishing the captured documents that say otherwise?
Those were my first thoughts when I saw the post on Drudge. If Iraq had them, Iran did as well.
Further, in 2003, how far along was Iran in their nuke program? Were they already ahead (but playing patty-cake with the IAEA to buy time)?
During the 2004 debates, didn't Kerry advocate helping Iran further with its "peaceful" uses of atomic energy?
You are so amazing. I knew we could count on you. Thanks!
Wow!!! What an utter INDICTMENT of the mainstream media for ignoring this information for the past THREE YEARS. This is a GOLDMINE of an admission of incompetence and bias on the part of the mainstream media, but I doubt it will be reported that way.
Bottom line: This will help vindicate what the President has been saying all along. We should all thank the NY Times for finally doing its job.
LOL! What idiots.
It's so weak, it may be a bait-and-switch tactic. The real "surprise" is still a surprise.
I shall do so.
"But, but, but...I thought that Saddam wasn't seeking Nuclear weapons and had completely shut his program down. Talk about dazed and confused."
You are not alone. 1st there were no programs, no WMD and now we are aiding Iran?
Even Kerry and Clinton would have problems parsing this logic.
LOL. I cannot wait unti PJ Comix comes out with his DUFunnies on THIS one...:)
LOL. I cannot wait unti PJ Comix comes out with his DUFunnies on THIS one...:)
Okay, this will hurt Republican candidates how?
If Saddam had such hot nuke tech, then it bolsters the need for the invasion, i.e. Bush was right!
NY Times will wake up tomorrow and take a hard gulp when they realize they outsmarted themselves. NY Times is the "John Kerry" of newspapers. LOL!!!
I was mostly being sarcastic, but you are absolutely correct. Besides, I get the very distinct feeling Kerry's parsing days are over.
Hope the WH is smart enough to point out that this proves that Saddam had an active nuclear development program, thereby demonstrating that he was a gathering threat....
Yep that's it