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To: kellynla

Of course we still trade with them...$$$ trumps all else.


2 posted on 11/02/2006 6:01:28 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr; kellynla; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; ..
Of course we still trade with them...$$$ trumps all else.

Not with the Russians. With the Chinese yes.

During the whole time of Gorbachev, Yeltsin and Putin Russia was and is under Soviet era sanctions by USA and still is being prevented from joining WTO. So Russia is FORCED to trade with the countries on the periphery or outside of US influence and this means often weapons.

Yeltsin said several times, that his country does not need help from USA but it needs removal of sanctions and closer economic ties.

That is why asking Russia to join some sanctions when Russia is under sanctions herself does not make much political sense.

5 posted on 11/02/2006 6:25:11 AM PST by A. Pole (Saint Augustine: "The truth speaks from the bottom of the heart without the noise of words")
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To: stuartcr
Of course we still trade with them...$$$ trumps all else.

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Iran is the absolute devil in the axis of evil. Witness North Korea going back to talks after China shuts off oil supplies. Russia, and China do not have the same issues at stake in this fight with islam as we do. Everyone will have issues with islam but to a different degree. We must understand that Israel and USA are the object of jihad. China/Russia have issues with USA that trump their fear of islam. Consequently they will support Iran because it occupies our energy and our resources. We shouldn't be surprised at that. It only points out the absolute folly in trying to accomplish anything through the UN. The United Nations is an agent for the emasculation and destruction of the USA. The UN exists to oppose and counterbalance the power of America in the world.

The dirty little secret in geopolitics however, is that we don't just trade with China, we depend on China. The entire world monetary system is balanced by the creditor/debtor relationship between the US/China. There is a symbiotic relationship that exists between the two nations as one declines and the other rises. It used to be China needed the US while we capitalized on China. Soon it will reverse and the US will depend on China and they will capitalize on us. At some point they will no longer need us and will become the agent of our demise. As China expands and matures, her own people will be the markets for her production. America will receive less, and consequently China will provide the cheap goods and the foreign investment money necessary for us to maintain our debt. Yes money trumps all else, when you are dependent on their goods to float your currency.
6 posted on 11/02/2006 6:46:45 AM PST by photodawg
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