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Olmert and his government has to go. Liberals seem to be cut from the same cloth in every nation, they don't understand that you can't negotiate with fanatics who are sworn to kill you even if they die themselves in the process.
1 posted on 08/20/2006 9:40:59 PM PDT by epow
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Wow, the article fills in the blanks in what I've been thinking. Pretty clear headed. Pretty nasty war right around the corner.


2 posted on 08/20/2006 9:58:29 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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"a future war scenario involving not thousands of dead, but millions."

Isn't it possible, even likely, that Iran will want to attack when Israel doesn't expect it?

It is also possible that Iran already has nuclear weapons, as intel sources have told Congressman Weldon.

Guess we will find out Tuesday morning.
3 posted on 08/20/2006 10:04:03 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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Look here and here for previous discussion on this Glick article.
4 posted on 08/20/2006 10:08:57 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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If we hesitate, if we and the rest of the free world waste precious time with worthless diplomatic wrangling with the ayatollahs, war will come to us, but on the enemy's terms. And we will have only ourselves to blame.


5 posted on 08/20/2006 10:50:48 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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If only Caroline Glickman spoke for the Israeli people. But the last numbers I saw had 29% for Kadima and 20% for Likud. I'd rather not have predicted this loss, but it was obvious after Olmert's actions toward Gaza, and promises of futher withdrawal from the West Bank. It could have been worse. For the moment, Israel is effectively suicidal - whether through naivety or lassitude. The US should not commit more since the current Israeli government will likely compromise our troops, and we will need them all. Israel, as a bastion of democracy with a fine army has been an invaluable asset. That Israel could defend a tiny slip of land, outnumbered one hundred to one, is a remarkable testament to the benefits of some individual and economic freedom. But the US cannot, and should not, assume their defense. While we can only guess at discussions in Washington and Crawford, as I will discourage my children from risking their lives for state of Israel with its current leadership, our President, as much as he values the nation and people of Israel, has apparently made the same decision.

Israel, while not capable of eliminating Hizbollah, could have insured negotiations on Israeli terms rather than the current sham. Some weapons systems which would have likely (optimistic, but realistic) protected tanks and armored personel carriers might have been operational were defunded several years ago. There have been artillary radar systems for decades which locate fire and initiate counter fire in seconds, before the shell or rocket is close to landing. Instead of phone calls and leaflets to South Lebanese, a warning from Israel that a launch will initate a response makes Hisbollah responsible, and is the horrible cost of war. Reuters must not dictate the defense if Israel. Any other response shows weakness.

We in the US have similar problems, but a couple of oceans, millions of square miles, and thirty times the population insulate us from the dangers. As with the elites of New York, San Fransciso, and Los Angeles the liberal elites of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv pay little attention to the military. Their sons, most of whom still serve in the IDF, hated duty in Gaza and territories, so they found a politician who made it unnecessary. The sons (and sometimes daughters) have relatives all over the world, and leave the country to avoid serving (as a several of Olmert's children did). He was elected by a populace which no longer understands why they must be warriors. Olmert's words, "...we are tired of fighting", were simply honest.

Israel now appears vulnerable, and, from what I know about missile defense (which is dated, but from direct experience), Israel is vulnerable. I hope I'm wrong; I hope this is a "rope-a-dope" strategy to invite an attack while things are not as they appear. But I have seen no indication that Olmert is nearly that clever. And cleverness is not nearly so effective as action. That IDF F16 which buzzed the Syrian Palace before the introduction of ground forces now appears as the bluff it probably was. Moslems are the master of the bluff.

If there is anything positive from the sham of Unifil and the French protecting the peace, one hopes the failures of vigilance and tactics might be addressed before the next round. Unfortunately, it appears that the amazing cacophony of Knesset party politics, only briefly suspended during the war, are taking over. Israel, as constituted, may prove simply too unwieldy an organization to defend itself. But Jews will survive, and no doubt, in some century or millennium find our way back to our homeland. And perhaps the foundations of a new Jewish homeland will not be compromised by socialism, the burden of anti-Zionist ultra-orthodox, the tolerance of Knesset members dedicated to enemies of Israel and Judaism. And perhaps they/we will establish the founding principles, the principles which still help the US to survive, with a constitution.
7 posted on 08/20/2006 11:55:16 PM PDT by Spaulding (Wagdadbythebay)
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The language is a bit florid, a bit melodramatic, but the message is accurate. The time we have left to abort the coming major war is getting very short.

Glick notes, "Furthermore, the war in Lebanon exposed the results of years of neglect of the IDF reserve forces. These forces must be properly equipped, properly trained for war, and properly led. The talk of releasing men from reserve duty at 35 must be abandoned. The IDF has to accept that it is a fighting force in war. Commanders have to stop acting like yuppies in uniform and understand that they have a war to train for and fight and win."

Exactly so. And so do we.


8 posted on 08/21/2006 12:07:05 AM PDT by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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Out with Olmert! In with Netanyahu. Out with Halutz! Replace him with the general (can't find name right now) who said "Nasrallah must die!" Out with Livni! Out with Peretz! And Avi Dichter, someone tell him to SHUT UP!


12 posted on 08/21/2006 12:31:09 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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