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With a Change at KZLA-FM, Country Radio Says Adios to Los Angeles [Country music too white?]
The NY Times ^ | August 19, 2006 | Jeff Leeds

Posted on 08/19/2006 4:16:04 PM PDT by summer

...The abrupt switch...left Los Angeles, the nation’s No. 2 radio market, with more than 10 million people, without an area-wide country music station, even as the genre remains a potent force on the Billboard sales charts. It joins New York, the biggest radio market, which has been without a major country station since 1996, and San Francisco, the nation’s No. 4 market, which lost a major country station in 2001.

Paradoxically, Los Angeles consistently ranks as one of the top two markets for country album sales (it accounts for roughly 3 percent of all country sales so far this year) and plays host to the genre’s biggest touring acts. Thursday marked the first night of a sold-out three-night stand by Mr. McGraw and Ms. Hill, country’s power couple, at the Staples Center arena.

But the station’s corporate parent, Emmis, which is based in Indianapolis, concluded that even having the city’s only country station — billed as “America’s most listened-to country station” — was no longer worth it, and that it could do better. The switch to what it calls “rhythmic pop contemporary” was dictated by economic common sense: a country station that draws predominantly white listeners aged 25 to 54 could no longer stay afloat in an ethnically diverse megalopolis. ...

“Country is a tough format to do in a market that is an ethnic melting pot,” said Rick Cummings, Emmis’s president of radio. “The appeal of the format is fairly limited when it comes to ethnicity.” In Los Angeles, he said, stations that cater mostly to white listeners are “playing for less than 25 percent of the marketplace on a good day.”...

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: New York
KEYWORDS: countrymusic; la; ny; radio; sanfrancisco
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To: Yehuda

"http://clusty.com/search?input-form=simple-clusty&query=country+music+online+radio"

Thanks for the great address. Can you recommend a magazine that would help me get to know about country music?


61 posted on 08/22/2006 10:19:25 AM PDT by strategofr (The Temping of America, Robert Bork, read this book and get back the Constitution)
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To: ArmstedFragg

"I suppose you could still argue that none of them is an "area-wide" station, since their patterns don't cover west L.A., Santa Monica, or Malibu. But, from a realistic standpoint, it wouldn't matter much because THE country music fan out there doesn't listen to the radio much, anyway."

Interesting comment. I am an old rock & roll guy who is thoroughly sick of rock and roll. We have no country music station in my city and they don't even carry country music magazines on the racks in the stores. Can you recommend a magazine?


62 posted on 08/22/2006 10:21:44 AM PDT by strategofr (The Temping of America, Robert Bork, read this book and get back the Constitution)
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To: summer
My main objection to what is labeled "Country" these days is that if some cutsie female singer or a hunky male singer dons a ragged old cowboy hat, tight jeans and warbles his/her wares while accompanied by a steel guitar and or a fiddle...it's called Country.
And I grew up in a town in Massachusetts that produced two very good singers...Liz Boardo and Jo Dee Messina. Both of them "Country" singers.
The majority of this music is marketed this way because these singers can't make it in, what is termed, the Mainstream.
Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Conway Twitty, Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Clink Black...now that's Country.
Just my opinion. I'm sure some will disagree.
63 posted on 08/22/2006 10:30:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Dawn of light...lying between a silence and sold sources...)
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To: vetvetdoug
Diversity means white folks don't matter.

You got that right. I live in LA and am rather ticked about KZLA, which was my favorite station. It's one more nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned.
64 posted on 08/22/2006 10:36:16 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Is cheap, illegal labor worth one life?)
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To: ErnBatavia

Actually, "Hey, batter, batter" is very well written (pretty good allegory, words flow well, music is kickin'). Were you making fun of it or singing its praises?


65 posted on 08/22/2006 10:39:19 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: summer

Hip Hop is pretty darkish... from what I have heard and seen.


66 posted on 08/22/2006 10:41:10 AM PDT by JFC (Land of the FREE because of our BRAVE)
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To: strategofr

NO COUNTRY STATION IN PITTSBURGH??????

What's the world coming to?


67 posted on 08/22/2006 10:46:36 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Chena
...You must not listen to country music very much. That's such a stereotypical description...

I watched a blistering live performance from Tim O'Brien and the Oh Boys several weeks ago. We were several rows away from some trendy urban sophisticates who would periodically shout (quoting here...) "yee-haw" and wave their arms and clap their hands jezz like they wuz at the hoe-down presumably so they would "fit in" with the "rest of us".

geeze, what a bunch of embarrassing retards...

68 posted on 08/22/2006 10:55:46 AM PDT by martin gibson ("I care not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death")
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To: strategofr

A magazine...

Search Ask.com for "country music magazine", and take your choice. There's lots to choose from.

Sounds like your situation is tailor-made for satellite radio. I'm using a Sirius receiver at home, and have several country channels to choose from, plus an extensive collection of decade-specific rock music including one for the seventies if I start having an attack of disco deprivation.


69 posted on 08/22/2006 12:48:40 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Yehuda

OK, thanks.


71 posted on 08/24/2006 9:30:48 AM PDT by strategofr (The Temping of America, Robert Bork, read this book and get back the Constitution)
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To: strategofr
I am not familiar with Country Music but want to learn something about it, and we have no country station in Pittsburgh either. What is the best magazine for me to buy?

You may be interested in this thread.

Ain't Got No Cigarettes: Memories of Music Legend Roger Miller
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1702856/posts

72 posted on 09/17/2006 7:30:22 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: summer
>> Well, it never came back in NY, even though Kenny Chesney had no problem whatsoever selling out his shows and the critics loved him, too. And, country music had their big awards televised from NY recently. <<

I'm not suprised and I don't see the connection. Hosting "country" music awards in New York City would be like choosing the Yukon to host the annual hip-hop awards. NYC and L.A. is about as far away from "country" culture as you can get.

73 posted on 10/14/2006 1:48:27 PM PDT by BillyBoy (ILLINOIS ELECTION "CHOICES:" Rod Bag-o-$hit or Judas Barf Too-Pinka)
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To: Chena
>> LOL! You must not listen to country music very much. That's such a stereotypical description. <<

Oh really? Here are the actual lyrics of hit "country music" songs being put on heavy rotation here in Chicago:

“I'll stand barefooted in my own front yard with a baby on my hip' -- cuz I'm a redneck woman; I ain't no high class broad! I'm just a product of my raising I say, 'hey ya'll' and 'yee-haw' And I keep my Christmas lights on mah front porch all year long!”
- Gretchen Wilson, Female Country star of the year, 2005, "Redneck Woman"

“The body's a temple and that's what we're taught. Well, ah’ treated this one like an ole honky tonk! Greasy cheeseburgers and cheap cigarettes! One day they'll get me if they ain't got me yet. Because I've been livin’ in fast forward; Hillbilly rock star outta control!!”
-- Kenny Chesney “Livin’ in Fast Forward”

Name is Bobby Jo, meet mah twin sister, Betty Lou – an’ we're both feeling kinda wild tonight… I still hang out with my best friend Dave. Last night he had a few shots, got in a tight spot hustlin' a game of pool wit’ a couple of redneck boys. One great big bad biker man! I heard Dave yell across the room "Hey buddy, how 'bout a helping hand." I said, "Dave – I AIN’T AS GOOD AS I ONCE WAS!!”’
---Toby Keith, “Ain't good as I once was”

“Well we broke down in Greenville -- in the middle of a hayfield -- but a Bud Light truck pulled up and helped us out. So we then headed up to Philly, partied down like real hillbillies -- brought the Music Mafia and rocked it out!! YEEEE-HAH!!!… we’re comin’ to your cit-tah!!!”
-- BIG & RICH, “Comin' To Your City”

“It's allright to be a Rehdneck...It's all right to ride round in a dirty ol’ truck, catch a bunch of fish n’ shoot a bunch of duck!!! It's GOOD tah be a redneck!!”
--Alan Jackson, "It's allright to be a redneck"

Again, NYC, L.A., and Chicago hosting "county" music makes as much sense as choosing Yukon, Canada to do rap contests.

74 posted on 10/14/2006 1:54:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (ILLINOIS ELECTION "CHOICES:" Rod Bag-o-$hit or Judas Barf Too-Pinka)
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To: summer; All

Excuse me for butting in, but has anyone seen any threads discussing Darryle Worley's new song "I just came back from a war"?


75 posted on 11/13/2006 5:13:48 AM PST by NucSubs (Islam delenda est.)
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Country music is too white? Has the genius that figured that out also realize that rap music is too black. Am I a racist for saying that?


76 posted on 11/13/2006 5:17:20 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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