Ireland – a Polish home from home

Radio Polonia ^ | 16.08.2006 | Iwona Lajmen

[Palladin]

Hah! Another common Irish and Polish trait--wild ambition!!!

[mikrofon]

Smaczny!

[lizol]

It used to be probably Polish surname "Okonski" (from "okon", Polish for a fish called "perch" or "bass").

[Fiji Hill]

Welcome to the Poles! They are a good match, with their industriousness and their spirituality. Surely they will prove to be a good addition to the mix.

Alvin O'Konski was a conservative Republican US representative from Wisconsin who ran unsuccessfully for Joseph R. McCarthy's Senate seat following Tail Gunner Joe's death in 1957. I had always wondered if O'Konski was an Irish or Polish name, but a former employee of his told me that the name is Polish.

[xsmommy]

maybe mrs mik will serve some for dinner?

[lizol]

Anything wrong with the Irish Catholic Church?

[Fiji Hill]

Given his voting record in the house, O'Konski would have been a far better Senator than William Proxmire, the Democrat who eventually won the seat.

[wideawake]

Cromwell, in particular, was very thorough in his extermination of the Irish People. He gave his soldiers orders to kill anything that moved, women, children, and babies included, because, said he: "Nits grow into lice".

Cromwell's massacres were genocidal in fact (he slaughtered thousands of people simply because they were Catholic, or were Anglicans loyal to the Stuart dynasty, without regard for age or sex), method (burning hundreds of his victims alive) and in intent (he wanted to eliminate all non-Parliamentarians from the areas of Ireland he considered strategic).

The quote, however, is completely unsubstantiated by any contemporary record, either Parliamentarian or Royalist.

As is the other famous quote about driving the Irish to "Connaught or Hell."

I think the important indicator of how vile a person Cromwell was is the detruction of Wexford - his troops destroyed a town that would have been of great value for his supply lines in his Irish campaign. It was apparently more important to him to murder Irish Catholic civilians in Wexford and raze an entire town rather than to secure his own supply lines for the sieges of Waterford, Duncannon, Clonmel and Limerick.

He lost precious time, strategic advantage and hundreds of soldiers to disease and exposure just to slake his bloodlust.

[wideawake]

So I have got a screw loose?

If you approve of Sinn Fein/IRA's attitude and behavior toward Thatcher, you absolutely do.

It's Catholics like you that I can do without.

If you support a terrorist organization like Sinn Fein/IRA, then you can do without all Catholics, since no actual Catholic would support such a vicious terrorist organization. IRA enablers are a strictly CINO group.

[wideawake]

Conflating Pomeranian civilians who were born and raised on Polish soil with SS murderers from the Rhineland is bad history and special pleading.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

Excuse me, the IRA have killed more people on this island that the British security forces.

Why haven't you posted pictures of the Enniskillen Bombing?

Nevermind, I'll do that:

Sinn Fein IRA Atrocities The Enniskillen Remembrance Day Massacre:

The "Poppy day massacre victims are as follows:-

William Mullen 72 yrs, married with children and retired (Civilian)

Angus Mullen 70 yrs married (Civilian)

Kitchener Johnson 70 yrs married murdered with his wife Jessie (Civilian)

Jessie Johnson 70 yrs married murdered with her husband Kitchener. (Civilian)

Wesley Armstrong 62 yrs married murdered with his wife Bertha (Civilian)

Bertha Armstrong 53 yrs married and murdered with her husband Wesley.(Civilian)

John Megaw 68yrs (Civilian)

Edward Armstrong 52 yrs member of the 'Chosen Few' Orange Lodge and a member of the RUCR

Georgina Quinton 72 yrs widow with four children. (Civilian)

Marie Wilson 20 yrs single and was a nurse (Civilian)

Samuel Gault 49 yrs (Civilian)

[wideawake]

On Sunday, January 30th, 1972 the proud Irish stood up for their rights and the British soldiers just shot them like rabbits.

Not quite the same thing.

There were three groups involved on Bloody Sunday: civil rights protestors, British soldiers and IRA provocateurs.

The IRA provocateurs used innocent civil rights protestors as human shields to attack British soldiers and the British soldiers responded with an unforgivably incompetent response that killed innocent people and allowed terrorists to escape.

The Polish Massacre on the Coast was composed of just two groups: Communist soldiers and peaceful protestors. There were no homegrown Polish terrorists present.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

There IS no such thing as a good terrorist, Mr Blair

[twinself]

Guys - sorry for interrupting you in the family quarrel but this thread is about Poles in Ireland. And I've been to Ireland twice in mid nineties. All in all I spent 2 months at my friends Troy family's farm in Kilcormac, near Birr. I've been to an Irish wedding ('Slainte! crossed 'Na zdrowie!), visited mists of Connemara listening to Clannad and been to the hurling final between counties Offaly and Killkenny in Dublin (whoaaaa... what a sport!). And I bought myself Fender amplifier I still own. They revisited me in Poland some years later - went skiing in Karkonosze for the first time in their lives, also to a concert of Polish-Celtic supergroup Carrantuohill and delighted themselves with some ultra cheap Polish wine they considered a super purchase. LOL They also received some stuff of Polish national football team (in return for my green-white-golden scarf) :) The Irish I know - lovely people.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

The IRA provocateurs used innocent civil rights protestors as human shields to attack British soldiers and the British soldiers responded with an unforgivably incompetent response that killed innocent people and allowed terrorists to escape.

Bingo! Why do you think Martin McGuinness wouldn't testify to where he was on Bloody Sunday?

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

About half of my ancestors came from Ireland. I am so glad that Ireland's economy has rocketed to the top of the EU, with low taxes and free enterprise. It makes sense that Poles would do well in Ireland. Poles share many of the same values as the Irish.

[wideawake]

Some SS recruits came from Poland, but that represented a tiny percentage of the German-speaking Polish population.

Slawno was an important center for the anti-Hitler Confessing Church movement, sponsoring a seminary solely for training ministers who refused to study at Nazi-controlled evangelical seminaries.