Posted on 08/14/2006 6:06:47 PM PDT by Agent Smith
No, I am saying that there is a flaw in the doctrine saying God has a mother... Jesus has a Mother.
You didn't answer my question:
Was Jesus a man?
1And God spake all these words, saying,
2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3Thou shalt have no other gods (goddesses...my insert)before me.
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. ...OOooo there go the graven images people worship in the church...
5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; ...This also includes the doctrine of Mary WORSHIP...
6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments
So, the Catholic Church is breaking the very first commandment that God had imposed on his people. The Same Commandments taught in Cathecism, hmmm... ever wonder why people think the Bible is contradictive? The Bible isn't contradictive, it's the teachings of the church that is contradictive to Gods Holy Word.
Yes, Jesus is a man.
Is Jesus God? Yes or no?
One day the Holy Spirit will reveal the truth to you as He has with me... or Maybe He already tried you you rejected the truth.
Jesus is God in the earthly flesh - requiring a medium for birth. A earthly, fleshy mother. God made himself manifest into Mary. God was already in existance...Mary didn't produce God...
Then who did she produce?
If you fail to see the difference, then you are really blind.
Banning Muslims from flights would be a good first step.
And if you claim that there is a difference between Jesus the man and Jesus our Lord and our God, then you are not a Christian.
My friend, I am so sad to see that you niether can see the error in your thinking and the blind acceptance of the doctrines of the Catholic Church, to the truth revealed in scriptures.
Jesus is a man, also, God, the Savior, the Prince of Peace, the Rose of Sharon, Our Lord, The Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the Earth, The Word, The Resurrectio and the Life.
Not once have I denied Jesus... I am saying that Mary isn't God's mother. She is Jesus's mother... Jesus the man's Mother. God, who made himself manifest in Jesus, doesn't need a mother, nor did he have one. Can a mortal give birth to an imortal? Jesus had to Die on the cross...Can you kill God?
Further more... Jesus - the man...showed humanly attrributes at Gethsamne when he was praying... He was under so much stress that he sweated blood from his pores. He pleaded to God to have "this cup pass from me, Never the less your will be done"... Jesus showed a bit of fear knowing what was ahead... Would God, show these attributes?
You need to read your Bible...
Jesus was a man -- 100%.
He was also and at the same time 100% God.
If you disbelieve either statement, then you are not a Christian.
I'm not trying to insult you, nor even criticize you. It's simply a fact: to be a Christian, one MUST believe that Jesus Christ the man was also the Eternal Word, Second Person of the Godhead.
Mary is the mother of Jesus. Jesus is God. Therefore, Mary is the Mother of God. To believe otherwise is to deny Jesus' humanity or His divinity.
I believe in the divine appointment of Mary, but to believe that God has a mother is to believe that there is a God and Goddess before our God... It isn't the case, and that is blasphemy. "Thou shall not have any gods (or goddesses) before me..." EXODUS 20.
I know your argument, I once had the same view as you until the Holy Spirit revealed the truth. Until the Holy Spirit reveals it to you...shalom.
This is the end of this discussion.
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