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Police fears of threat to Muslims
BBC News ^ | 08/11/06

Posted on 08/11/2006 10:05:04 AM PDT by presidio9

The police have increased their presence in areas with Muslim populations in the UK to deter attacks after the latest terror arrests. Officers are investigating a small fire at a mosque in Chester but say it is too early to say whether it was in response to the alleged terror plot.

The small blaze was quickly extinguished and no-one was injured.

The head of the Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were "fully behind" efforts to prevent attacks.

Dr Mohammed Abdul Bari said the community supported curbs on terrorism, but warned of "a distance" growing between them and the police.

Peter Fahey, the communities and diversities spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO), said forces would be "very alive" to any threats.

He added that he was aware that there was a distrust among the Muslim community.

"It is something that we take very very seriously and we are working all the time to break that down," he said.

Dr Bari warned police must be very careful, as the failed raid in east London in June created "a distance" between them and Muslims.

"The people that I have been listening to - the old, young, men and women - they are saying that they are fully behind the police when it comes to national security and the public safety," he said in an interview with BBC Radio Leeds. He called on his community to "work together" with detectives, saying: "This is our society and we could have been victims as well, so there is no second thought on that."

In June, Dr Bari warned that trust between the Muslim community and police could be damaged following the raid on a house in Forest Gate.

A Muslim man was shot in the shoulder and was arrested along with his brother.

Both were later released without charge and the police watchdog, the Independent Police Complaints Commission, judged the shooting to have been accidental.

Home Secretary John Reid has urged people of all communities and religions in the UK to join together to overcome "those who wish to harm us".

However, police "need to do a lot more thinking" before that can happen, argued Fahad Ansari from the Islamic Human Rights Commission, because their intelligence was "flawed".

"For four years we've been seeing more and more innocent people being harassed and demonised," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

"We've seen very few terrorists being captured but a lot of innocent people destroyed.

"The more you alienate a community, it's not going to be good for future relations."

'Backlash'

Muhammad Abul Kalam from the Muslim Safety Forum said that there was generally an increase in Islamophobic attacks following events such as Thursday's raids, in which 24 people were arrested.

"We simply don't want to see any kind of backlash unleashed against ordinary Muslims because of what has happened."

He said he believed his organisation had received no contact so far from the Metropolitan Police, despite having an ongoing advisory role for the security services.

"We'd like them to open those channels of communication and talk to them so that we can reassure the community leaders we speak to," he told BBC News. Meanwhile Khalid Mahmood, the Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr, said he accepted that young Muslims disagreed with the government's policy on terrorism, and this could lead to a minority turning to being led astray.

Some young people were being "sectioned off" and "brainwashed", he added.

And on occasions, "very new converts to the religion" did not have "a fundamental understanding of their own religion", he said.

But the Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, said he did not believe that Islam was the real cause of any terrorist plots.

"Most of them are doing it because they are alienated, because they have been given a vision which is so imaginatively wicked that they believe we can build a better world than actually exists," he claimed.

A spokesman for Islamic political organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir said he would "urge caution before jumping to conclusions" about the 24 people arrested over the latest alleged terror plot.

"We hope there is no repeat of the media hysteria and police leaks that followed the Forest Gate raids when reports of 'chemical vests' and 'bomb factories' turned out not to be true," said Imran Waheed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: freerepublicer

Thank goodness for the second amendment.


21 posted on 08/11/2006 10:17:29 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: presidio9
Police can't protect everyone against everything, everywhere.

Resources need to be apportioned where they will do the greatest good for the greatest number.

I humbly submit that the danger to non-muslims is many orders of magnitude greater than the danger to muslims.

The conclusion, then, should be obvious.
And contrary to the thrust of this article.

22 posted on 08/11/2006 10:17:44 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: presidio9

Your search - "police fears of threat to jews" - did not match any documents


23 posted on 08/11/2006 10:18:28 AM PDT by rennatdm
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To: presidio9
amazing,, the Stockholm Seattle Syndrome strikes again
24 posted on 08/11/2006 10:18:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: lowbridge

I second.


25 posted on 08/11/2006 10:18:39 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: freerepublicer
they fear a backlash, but we are the ones who should fear them!

We should not fear them. We recognize the evil that they are and counter it. And NEVER miss an opportunity to humiliate muzzies, and deride their belief structure. Short of killing them all, casting them from civilized society (isolating them) is the only method proven to work.

26 posted on 08/11/2006 10:20:26 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: 3AngelaD
For continuing education...

ENOCH POWELL - 1968

27 posted on 08/11/2006 10:20:57 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: presidio9

"Police fears of threat to Muslims"

'Cause God knows us infidels are busy hijacking planes and blowing ourselves up in the hopes of killing a couple of their kids. /s


28 posted on 08/11/2006 10:21:11 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: presidio9
Police fears of threat to from Muslims
29 posted on 08/11/2006 10:21:46 AM PDT by callthemlikeyouseethem (i was not aborted this way...)
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To: Personal Responsibility

And you know what is considered a "threat to Muslims"? Cartoons. They can blow up buses, blow up planes, but those cartoons come out, whoa! Stand back Jack!


30 posted on 08/11/2006 10:23:55 AM PDT by Screamname (Batman and Godzilla : When will they fight?)
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To: presidio9

Aw, not this SH!T again! Why did I even click on this post? C-U on anther thread presidio.


31 posted on 08/11/2006 10:25:27 AM PDT by subterfuge (If Liberals hated terrorists like they hate Bush the war would be over by now)
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To: Paleo Conservative

"Typical Muslims thinking..."

actually, this is the MO, first scream discrimination, based on race/religion/name (sometimes, even if one doesn't appear to be an "ali" or "osama", once detected, it's because of their name)...

then deny, deny, deny....


32 posted on 08/11/2006 10:25:47 AM PDT by callthemlikeyouseethem (i was not aborted this way...)
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To: Madeleine Ward
One lone, brave woman with a loving spirit and true conscience stepped forward. One.

I pray that she is never identified, because the primitive mass-murderers will fatwah her so fast no amount of police will protect her forever.

We are all eternally grateful to her; If there were just a few hundred truly good human beings who also happen to be muslim, like her, worldwide (out of 1,200,000,000), we might not be having this discussion.

33 posted on 08/11/2006 10:27:25 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: RexBeach

If the government is not going to watch after civilized people, they just may have to look after themselves. Enough is enough!


34 posted on 08/11/2006 10:27:45 AM PDT by tessalu
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To: Publius6961

Gee, thanks. I had no idea who Enoch Powell was....Powell believed that immigration from Britain's former colonies would lead to an epidemic of crime and poverty (he got that right)and the fragmentation of British society (amen). "Like the Roman," Powell stated, "I seem to see the River Tiber foaming with much blood." Substitute subway for Tiber and you can see how right he was.


35 posted on 08/11/2006 10:28:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Personal Responsibility

There seems to be a rule that only Muslims can play the "victim" card. Maybe they stacked the deck & only Muslims were dealt victim cards.


36 posted on 08/11/2006 10:30:53 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: presidio9
This chaps my hide.

How many thousands of non-muslims have died at the hands of Muslim zealots in the past 2 decades?

Meanwhile Muslims in the UK and the USA whine at the drop of a hat about "the possibility" of danger, when in fact there is no evidence of danger or even threats.

Muslims are excellent at sending out there press releases immediately to distract attention from atrocities committed in the name of Islam.

37 posted on 08/11/2006 10:35:10 AM PDT by twntaipan (I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than ride in Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: 3AngelaD
You're welcome.

Mr. Powell was not a random nut. As a member of Parliament, he nailed it --- almost 40 years ago.

38 posted on 08/11/2006 10:37:08 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever; AliVeritas

PC will not win us victory in this war. Say it loudly, Say it often!


39 posted on 08/11/2006 10:39:43 AM PDT by del4hope (The LORD will be a refuge for His people-Joel 3:16)
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To: presidio9

Here's an idea - GO HOME.


40 posted on 08/11/2006 10:39:54 AM PDT by New Girl
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