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Wire Services Defend Staged Photos ( propaganda photos from Qana, Lebanon )
Little Green Footballs ^ | 8/1/06

Posted on 08/01/2006 8:55:51 PM PDT by george76

The news wire services are circling the wagons around their propaganda photos from Qana: News agencies stand by Lebanon photos.

8/1/06 3:02:32 pm:

If the wire services truly want to settle the timing issue, all they need to do is release the actual timestamps from when the photographs were taken. Digital cameras automatically record this information in the photograph itself, so it would be a simple matter for the wires to provide it.

Will they? Or are we simply supposed to take their word for it?

UPDATE at 8/1/06 4:30:31 pm:

For me, by the way, the timing issue is actually not the most damning thing about the photos, or the thing that most convinces me they were staged. It’s appallingly clear when you examine all the photos that children’s bodies were posed deliberately for photo ops, and that the Green Helmet Guy was doing this for quite a long time, in several different locations often with the same body.


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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"but it can be changed, at any rate."

..and they would do this on many separate pictures, taken by many separate photographers, at many different locations... why?????

Sure.
21 posted on 08/01/2006 9:27:49 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: george76
Another pre2003 CNN in Iraq.
22 posted on 08/01/2006 9:27:54 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BigMacGOP

They are against us.

The pictures of Dan Rather with Sadaam smiling together...

Plus Jimmah' with Castro...


23 posted on 08/01/2006 9:30:04 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: dandelion
"It must be on heck of a firestorm for the newshouses to respond to the allegations of pic fakery..."

You think the MSM will keep this story alive? They have been ignoring it all day. It is mentioned not as the scam it is but more in passing.
24 posted on 08/01/2006 9:30:08 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: dandelion
Some of Brady's photographs bordered on fake, if not crossing the line outright. In any case, my point is that there's nothing new under the sun. "The Press" has been disingenuous (at best) for just about as long as it has existed. Folks on this forum are acting like they've found something new, with Rather, and fake photos from the Near East, etc. The only thing "new" is that it's easier to today to prove that the press is lying.
25 posted on 08/01/2006 9:34:21 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Remember the CNN employee producer/translator/?? who Saddam had killed ?

But CNN did nothing ...


26 posted on 08/01/2006 9:35:50 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I agree, with Brady's work, it's a little hard to get past the "staged" portion, but like you said, considering the equipment and the considerations of photography at the time, it was unusual for a photo to NOT be "staged" to a certain extent.


27 posted on 08/01/2006 9:39:56 PM PDT by dandelion
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re: CNN

"The most busted news source: CNN."

Don't forget one of the biggest busts: that phony chemical warfare story from the Viet Nam war.

28 posted on 08/01/2006 9:49:30 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: george76; Coop; delacoert; jazusamo; Velveeta; Txsleuth; txflake; spunkets; kellynla; ...

Spread the word, please


29 posted on 08/01/2006 9:49:43 PM PDT by pissant
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To: george76; Buckhead

Anybody ping Buckhead?


30 posted on 08/01/2006 9:50:52 PM PDT by pissant
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To: george76
The MSM is getting more like Baghdad Bob every day. Propagandameisters.
31 posted on 08/01/2006 9:54:22 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: pissant

You bet, bump.


32 posted on 08/01/2006 9:54:31 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: pissant; Coop; Just A Nobody; smoothsailing

Thanks for the ping.

FYI - MSM


33 posted on 08/01/2006 9:55:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: george76
Digital cameras automatically record this information in the photograph itself, so it would be a simple matter for the wires to provide it.

I see an even simpler explanation for the timestamps than even the rebutters used. I'm hesitant to mention it, because yesterday I asked why there were no survivors and then they pulled an old woman out from the rubble. I also do not know the way that professional photographers manage their equipment, so it would just be speculation on my part.

Anyay, if these timestamps are not posting timestamps, but rather the camera stored timestamps that are embedded into the picture when taken, the obvious question is: where do the photographers come from and what time zones do they set their camera's clocks to? Do professional photographers all set their camera clocks to UTC time or their own local time? If photographers come from all over the world to shoot the mayhem, could one assume that their cameras would record different times for the same event because their camera clocks are set to different home time zones?

I agree that this doesn't answer the other valid questions.

-PJ

p.s. I hope I don't see this explanation in the papers tomorrow...

34 posted on 08/01/2006 10:00:40 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: arasina

MSM is not tricked by these photographs.

The MSM is encouraging this bad behavior.

The Baghdad Bob of Lebanon...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1675647/posts


35 posted on 08/01/2006 10:07:22 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: JSteff

Maybe someone has an agenda. It is easy to fake exif data, and you can be sure most halfway decent digital camera buffs know how. It is easier just to erase the data altogether, many software programs won't preserve it anyway. I am in the habit of checking images for the data, it is one of the best learning tools I know of. You can download a free exif reader from OPANDA SOFTWARE, if you're curious. Keep in mind, however, that most images online from news sources will be wiped clean as a matter of practice, it makes the file a little smaller. Unless you have access to the unformatted memory card, there will be no record.


36 posted on 08/01/2006 10:18:08 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET, IN MY SWAMP)
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To: george76
The depths they will go to! Disgusting.


But the great tragedy for Qana, of which we are constantly reminded by the media, is that this is history apparently repeating itself. On 18 April 1996, the village was also visited by death and destruction. re-visiting the photographs of the time, however, who do we see at the centre of the action? Why, "Green Helmet" of course. This is a younger man, without his glasses, but recognisably the same man, in his now classic pose of handling a victim of an Israeli "atrocity".

37 posted on 08/01/2006 10:29:20 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

So once you format your digital photos (say, to a gallery of thumbnails) you lose the exif data unless you save a copy of the original with no formatting?


38 posted on 08/01/2006 10:31:21 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: jazusamo; pissant; jan in Colorado; RandallFlagg
FYI - MSM ENEMEDIA ping!
39 posted on 08/01/2006 10:36:35 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Supprt our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Just A Nobody

Sorry, I should have known better. :-)


40 posted on 08/01/2006 10:37:50 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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