[kenboy]

First, unless they are doing it public, the military has no way of knowing. If they are doing it in public, then there are other sections of the UCMJ that become operative. Second, assuming they are not doing it in public, there are no witnesses and no case. Even if a spouse decides to turn state’s evidence and accuse the other, there is no independent corroboration and, thus, no case. To my knowledge, there has never been a case brought against a military member purely for private, consensual sexual intercourse with a spouse.

So, let's say you're a straight, single soldier, and your straight, single, civilian ex-girlfriend, who is pissed at you, wants to get you fired. Should she really be able to call your CO, tell him that you've had anal sex with her, and get an investigation opened into your violation of the UCMJ? If the law is applied equally, I suppose Army investigators will question the other soldiers to find out if you ever admitted (bragged) to having done it, and once that independent corroboration is established, you'll be cashiered.

But that's OK, because anal sex spreads blood borne pathogens.

Seriously, I think this is all ridiculous. We're fighting a global war on terrorism, but we're spending millions of dollars investigating and dismissing soldiers because of who they have sex with. As far as I'm concerned, gay or straight, if it's not someone in your unit, I don't care.

[Lucky Dog]

Seriously, I think this is all ridiculous. We're fighting a global war on terrorism, but we're spending millions of dollars investigating and dismissing soldiers because of who they have sex with. As far as I'm concerned, gay or straight, if it's not someone in your unit, I don't care.

You, obviously, have never had the responsibility of command and it appears doubtful that you have ever had experience in a combat unit. If you had, your attitude, I suspect, would be considerably different.

When, as a commander at any level in a theater of war, you give an order, you know that the success of your mission and the lives of your people depend upon those orders being faithfully executed. Beyond those you give directly, there are “standing orders and regulations” you rely on being observed. Furthermore, when you receive orders from those in authority over you, you know that your superiors rely on the same level of discipline from you as you rely on from your subordinates. Without this military discipline, death and failure are nearly always inevitable.

The UCMJ is the highest standing order for the military. Those who violate it prove their lack of discipline and, thus, also prove their wiliness to potentially jeopardize the mission as well as their own lives and those around them. Regardless of whether, or not, you are concerned with who is gay and who is straight, it is an issue of military discipline that these individuals adhere to the standards of conduct laid before them.

If queers in the military do not have the discipline to restrain themselves in the area of sexual perversions, what makes you think that they would have the discipline to restrain themselves to following other orders?